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fruit flies have free will
okjohnson:
Hi
Thought this might lighten up your day.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272938,00.html
Orlando
gmik:
OMG I read that whole dang thing. ::)
I may have to read it again. My mind is tripping out!!!!!!!
A FRUIT FLY !!!!!!!!
Deborah-Leigh:
Naah! They haven't a clue :D ;D
They don't know that the missing link is Jesus Christ!...from beast to image of God....Yes!... only can be accomplished through Christ amd because of HIM and not His creatures nor His creation! ... ;D :D
That was funny though...fruit flys....... ::) ;D...prove free will.... ;D ::)...what next? ;D :D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
YellowStone:
Here's one for you all :)
God has designed and created grass. He has designed it so that when green (alive) it can bend and flex to outside influences. Which of course it does. We know also that God has designed the plant to slowly break down over time; it will dry, droop, and slowly break down; returning once more to the ground from which it came.
Here's the question. Seeing how a living blade of grass will bow to outside forces, ie Wind. Is it free to do so? Ah....but many will occur that the plant is only free to blow in the same direction as the wind, so No! it is not free. Many may then take the stand that the blade of grass can only bend accoding to the direction of the wind, which of course is correct. The blade of grass is encapable of resisting the very laws of nature that God designed it to cope with.
But here is the cavet; if it "cannot" resist, then it's only choice is to conform. Is it not then "free" to do so? Did not our Super Intelligent and Grand Designer create such a blade of grass in such a manner, that it is "free" to conform. Even in death.
Does God control every one of the thosands or millions of cells in a single grass blade, in such a manner that every cell, knows when to move a little when a droplet of water lands on it. Does he also tell a cell when to feed itself, when to divide and the ultimate charateristic, when to begin to consume itself in order to prolong the life of the parent. (the grass plant)
Does God have 999,999,999,999,999,999 to the power of 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 interfaces with every living plant cell on our Earth? Or is he the ultimate designer, creating such cells to conform to given restraints (all) or lack of.
So when the wind blows, the grass reacts just as it was designed to do. The Spirit of Life that is in every cell, gives life, thus enabling the reaction. Not controlling it.
Is it so different to imagine that God could not also grant the same condtions in insects and other small rodents. These animals have NO restrictions, preventing them from reacting to certain stimuli, but they CANNOT react outside their imposed limitations; therefore, they are free to act. How could they not be. As for such animals reacting when there is no outside stimuli, surely this is a design feature to. Many programmers of computer software enforce a timeout sequece if a key is not pressed in a certain amount of time.
I am not sure God makes us act in certain ways, by controlling our cells, muscles and neurons; rather, is it not more plausible and more complimentary to Him, that we act according to our individula design; from which we are "free" to act. Free in the same manner as Computer program. A programmer will "know" how the program will act under any use, for he designed and created it. God however is better than this. He knows, when, where, who, why and what.
How, because he designed it that way. :D
Granted, this is a little long, but I do not see why God would have to control anything at the cell level or smaller. Simply because, if HE is the designer and creator we give him credit for, why would HE need too. ;D
Oh, nothing can live "free" of God's Spirit, the Spirit of life. God granteth and God taketh away, in his time. Not ours.
Just my thoughts
Love in Christ to all my spiritual brothers and sisters,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
http://bible-truths.com/email5.htm
[Ray Replies]
Dear Grace:
Your feelings and thoughts are not unusual. Many people who come into a knowledge of the Truth [Jesus] have a real battle on their hands for some time.
YES, God is in control of EVERYTHING--EVERY THING!!!
Consider the alternative of this fact. God IS NOT IN CONTROL OF ANYTHING!!! Would that make you happier? Of course not. It's just that we want to place God where WE THINK HE SHOULD FIT INTO OUR FRAME OF THINKING.
Either God created His own ENEMY (Satan), or Satan created HIMSELF and God was helpless to stop him and has been loosing out to Satan by a ratio of ten to one for the past so many thousands of years. This is what Christendom teaches. This is NOT what the Scriptures teach.
By the way, we are considerably more complex than a mere puppet. But it is true that God controls us every bit as much as a puppeteer controls a puppet. And God is not ashamed to admit that this is the case. God says that a man CANNOT DIRECT HIS OWN STEPS, that the response of the tongue IS FROM THE ETERNAL, that ALL IS OF GOD, that God is operating ALL according to the counsel of His own will, that HE Himself is the CREATOR OF EVIL, it was God who planted the forbidden fruit tree in the garden than contained not only good, but a knowledge of EVIL as well, it is GOD who sets up the rulers of all governments, one can only come to Christ when God decides to "draw [Greek, drag] him to Christ," and a thousand and one other things. So why do we have trouble believing all these Scriptures?
You ask why Christ should die for the sins of humanity which were known and brought about by God Himself? I would as you of what purpose would be Christ's crucifixion if it saved no one except those who somehow came to Christ by their own free will ASIDE from any "drawing of the Father"?
The problem is, Grace, that we have been so brainwashed by the pagan and heretical theories of carnal-minded men that it is difficult to believe and rejoice in the plain, simple, and yet marvelously profound truths of God's Perfect Plan for the Salvation of all Mankind!
Meditate on this theme for a couple of years, Grace, and it will all become very clear--trust me, it will!
Sincerely,
Ray
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[In response to a lengthy email about evolution, Ray Responds]
Charles Darwin had a personal purpose for trying to find an explanation for the creation with a Creator. It was almost a "vendetta" if you will. He despised the evil teachings of Christendom (as do I), believing what is taught by Christendom really IS the religion of the Scriptures. BOTH his theories were wrong!
That there is "evolution" going on in biology as well as in industry is not in question, not with me at least. It is EASY to see the evolution of the dog as well as the automobile. I believe that all honest thinking people can agree on that. The real philosophical question, however, is WHAT DOES IT PROVE?
So in a broader discussion of "evolution," the origin of the species DOES come to mind, and so how does TRUE biological science deal with this question? Facts of biological science are not always easy to use in either projections for the future or explanations for the past. If the percentage of change in mans' height the past fifty years were run backward, it would be but a few thousands years that man would have had to been no taller than an ant. Project the same percentage of change into the future, and in only a few thousand years the average man will be as tall as skyscrapers! So what is the TRUE application of the fact that man has increased in height dramatically in the past fifty years? Does it in any way prove that God did not create the universe, earth, and man upon it?
Sincerely,
Ray
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