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is the holy spirit god???
Jrila:
john,
i dont really get into all that whut the different bibles say because really they all have the same meaning just worded differntly to be in agreement is to be one and the word of god is perfect there are no errors if that one verse is incorrect than the whole king james bible is wrong if u ask me but like i was saying if u say the holy spirit isnt god thats like saying who i am, really isnt me. think about it were all spirits in human bodies right? why cant gods spirit be him as well? does that make sence?
ok if the holy spirit isnt god who is he? or if the holy spirit isn't a person what is he?
i mean how can a holy sprit grieve eph 4:30
How can the holy spirit talk hebrews 3:7
how does he have a mind romans 8:27
how does he intercede (mediate) romans 8:26
that sounds like a person to me i mean only a person can do these things right? and if it is a person who is he???
kudeta:
--- Quote from: Jrila ---i dont really get into all that whut the different bibles say because really they all have the same meaning just worded differntly to be in agreement is to be one and the word of god is perfect there are no errors if that one verse is incorrect than the whole king james bible is wrong if u ask me
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That the different translations translate the verses differently is not important. The important thing to notice is: "This text concerning the heavenly witnesses [as found in some versions] is NOT contained in ANY Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the 15th century. It is not cited by ANY of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by ANY of the early Latin fathers..."
The line was not in the original books of the Bible. NONE of the manuscripts written before the 15th century have the line. That means someone ADDED IT LATER.
It DOES NOT MEAN that the whole King James is wrong, it just means that it was translated from a newer, manuscript which has an errant line in it.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---but like i was saying if u say the holy spirit isnt god thats like saying who i am, really isnt me. think about it were all spirits in human bodies right? why cant gods spirit be him as well? does that make sence?
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I'd disclaim that I don't mean to be rude, but I mean to be slightly rude: I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing down.
God is Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not a third Person in any sense.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---ok if the holy spirit isnt god who is he?
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The Holy Spirit is God. I've already said this. You're making the case for your not reading my posts stronger.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---or if the holy spirit isn't a person what is he?
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---i mean how can a holy sprit grieve eph 4:30
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---How can the holy spirit talk hebrews 3:7
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---how does he have a mind romans 8:27
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---how does he intercede (mediate) romans 8:26
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
--- Quote from: Jrila ---that sounds like a person to me i mean only a person can do these things right? and if it is a person who is it???
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It isn't a third person. The Holy Spirit is God.
Blessings,
- John
Jrila:
brother please listen by the way i am reading whut youe saying trust me and thats good u believe that the holy spirit is god but i gettin confused when u said that the holy spirit wasnt equal to god because what i got out of it was u were were sayin that the holy spirit wasnt god cuz to say the holy spirit is god in one breath then say he's not equal to god puzzled me because he is god your right but the point im trying to make is this the father, son, and holy spirit are the same, they just have different roles one is not higher then the other cuz like you said the holy spirit is god but why say he's not equal to god if he is god???
Craig:
Jrila I suggest you do a few things.
1) Read the forum Rules and how it is moderated
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.0.html
2) Read Rays study on this subject. And many emails
http://bible-truths.com/trinity.html
3) Listen to Rays latest audio on Christ, located at the bottom
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html
Craig
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