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Audio 4 

Where Did Jesus Come From?

I don’t want to give the wrong impression when I say God knows all and He’s perfect, but did He always know what He knows? 
Did God ever grow?
Did God ever experience anything bad, to become perfect?

Well He doesn’t tell us. But I’m just saying I see little insights. You know He knew good and evil. How did He know evil, when there was nothing but Him? See what I’m saying, there was not even Christ. Now by the time Christ came along as the Son of God... because you see ‘We,' you know the ‘We’ in Genesis. But that still includes the Father, that knew good and evil. But how? Well people don’t even think about it, they just think that’s God He knows everything. Yea but where was it(evil)... I mean God is not evil. But where was the evil, that He knew evil? 

I'm just wondering if someday we are going to learn that God is not a magic Jeanie in a lantern. That God has BECOME what He is. Some will say, ‘well I don’t know what to think about that.’ We know He is what He is, but what I’m saying is, what if He BECAME what He is. Maybe God is a whole lot more, better and stronger then we could ever dream. Because you could have an idea like you think He’s like a King born with a silver spoon in His mouth. That He was always God and He always had everything He wanted. He just snaps His fingers and presto. But what if it wasn’t always that way? What if God has 10 trillion times the character that we have?
Where did the concept come from, that you have to endure pain and hardship, to develop Godliness? Where did that concept come from? Well you say God just invented it. Why would you invent something that doesn’t exist like that? 

He wants us to become like Him. But are we going to do it through something that has no relevance to what He is whatsoever? That doesn’t quite make sense to me.
Then Jesus Christ... we are going to see who and what He is. He learned obedience by the things that He suffered, just as a human. How did He become the Son of God? Did God just say, I’m going to create a Son and whoosh...?

A woman sent me an email and said, 'why didn’t He just create a whole bunch of Jesus’? Why do we have to go through all of this to become sons of God... pain, suffering, growing old, disease, losing loved ones, wars, torture, why? If all He had to do was just make a bunch of Jesus’ then He would have all the sons He wants.'

There is something about this creation that ties in with the spirit. We read it in Hebrews; about the tabernacle, the sanctuary and the Holy place. Christ didn’t just become what symbolizes the Holy place here on earth. But in heaven He entered the Holy of Holies. In heaven! That’s where He made remission for our sins, before the Father. Not just on the cross, but before the Father in heaven. They are types and I’m not saying God shows us all this stuff. But I think He is showing us that it is there. It is there, you just have to believe the scripture. 

Now what is the grandest of all types of the heavenly, that has come to earth? The ultimate supreme likeness of something heavenly is Jesus Christ. This is not strictly, purely a earthly creation or invention. So whatever exist in heaven is personified in this Man, Jesus Christ. Now Jesus is the only one who is now in the image of God and we read in Hebrews.
Hebrews 1:3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person…
I think the Concordant uses the word, assumption, "express image of His assumption..."

v. 3 ...and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

This is speaking about Jesus Christ? He is the image of His Father.

Somebody ask me if "the god of this world" could possibly be referring to God rather than Satan. I considered it a long time ago, because Satan deceives and God blinds. God blinded them, Satan deceived. 

2Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine upon them.

So Jesus Christ is the personification of God. He’s the only one that is totally in His image. But then in Rom. 8, again we have the difference between the angels and what God is putting us through. 

Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestinates to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first creation (born).

No, "first BORN." Remember when we’re born into the family of God, God will be our Daddy. You know like it says in that movie, ‘It’s good to be the king.’ We’re not just working there, we’re not adopted, we’re BORN! God is our Daddy. This is heavy duty stuff, but this is a process, it has not happened yet. 

So let’s take a look at this first one, Jesus. 
Now just for fun. What is the first recorded words we have of Jesus Christ? The first recorded words are “Let there be light.” That was Christ. Now I’m going to prove that. We can prove that was Jesus Christ. 

I get a lot of emails about the name of Jesus being pagan. You know these sacred name societies out there. Trust me it’s all bunk, all of it. This Yehowshuwa, all this is bunk. They say Jesus is Jeezeus or however you spell that. Jeezeus and Zeus is the god of the Greeks. Jeezeus is talking about the Greek god? No, it’s not.  ut it’s a very complicated thing. 

I want you to know, not to be taken in by all this nonsense. Every religion on earth, somebody in their organization is going around saying it’s Yehowshuwa or Iesous, and they think they are so holy doing that. Where can we learn where this is done? 

There were these 70 scholars, hence the name Septuagint. Actually there was 72, but there is not a nice sounding name like Septuagint, for 72. So they were translating the Hebrew language into Greek. So when they come to these different names, how do they translate them into Greek? 

Well you think you can translate a word like mother, from one word. But every language has a name for mother or father and you can translate those names pretty easy. It may even be two words, but it is still father in this language. But when you come to a person’s name, how do you translate that?  Well it gets tricky, but there are rules of grammar. 

Joshua and Jesus are the same name, and that’s why in the book of Acts you have it talking about Jesus, being back in the OT. No it’s not Jesus, it’s Joshua. That is a blatant error in the KJ, it has Jesus there, when it’s suppose to be Joshua.   

[this is a complicated explanation of these Hebrew and Greek sounds and spellings, I did the best I could with the spelling (Kat)]
Yehoshua comes from YWV. The Y is from the Hebrew 'ye,' but in Greek it becomes ‘ih’ it’s pronounced 'eeay.' V is the Hebrew is ‘shin’ which is the sh sound, but in Greek you just make it 's,' they have no sh sound. So you have 'ihs' and it’s ye-sh. The W is ‘vav’ it’s a u sound and in Greek it becomes ‘ou.’ So you have yehowshuwa yeh-ho-shoo-a or yehoshua, it almost the same thing. The 'ye' is a softer sound, but some say it is pronounced 'ya' with a j sound. 

About 1500 they came out with the j, and they didn’t have j before the 1500’s, so they used a j for the ‘ya’ sound and it became stronger 'ja.' So instead of ye-hoshua, it’s j-hoshua - Jesus.  Jesus is not pagan. It’s just the way you transliterate YWV into Greek. Don’t let anybody tell you it is. 

One of the most powerful things we have to learn in the Scripture is that no man has ever seen God or heard His voice. You have just got to believe that. It says that over and over, so you got to believe it. If you don’t, well then you will think Jehovah is God the Father and you will have all these crazy things, that aren’t true. It’s a major truth. We have to find out who the God of the Bible is. "No man hath seen God at any time (John 1:18)." Is that clear!

John 5:37  And the Father Himself that sent Me, He hath borne witness of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape.

1 John 4:12 No man hath beheld God at any time…

There it is again. So when Abraham entertained 3 ‘men’ and Jacob wrestled with this ‘man’ he said, "I’ve seen God face to face, and lived to tell about it (Gen. 32:30)." He did not see God the Father and I don’t believe he saw Jesus Christ, either. He saw a representative from God, in the form of a man. It was a man and yes it was sent from God and it was all powerful and all that. But it plainly says, it was a man, in all those cases it says it was a man. It’s the same word man, when it says woman was taken from man - aw-dawm (Gen. 2: 23). 

Once you learn a spiritual truth, don’t ever let it go. If you haven’t learned it yet, you tend to be a little wishy washy. But once you learn it, don’t ever let it go.

We’ll get this nailed down pretty good here.

Matt 11:27 All things are delivered to Me by the Father.

That’s a pretty powerful statement right there. Where did Christ get, everything? From His Father. You say, ‘oh but He was equal with God, part of the trinity, one of the three and He was just as much God.’ Where did He get it? From His Father! The giver is greater than the receiver!
We are going to come to “He was sent.” The scripture say, “He who was sent, is not as great as He who sent Him (John 13:16)." 

You got to believe the scripture, that’s all. If it says it and it’s translated right, BELIEVE IT. Then you start making real progress. You learn something brand new and it’s true and you hang on to that. Then you just make so much progress, learning learning learning. But if you follow this hocus pocus Christianity nonsense, it’s just all superstitious fairytales. Not that there isn’t an element of truth in it, but you know what I’m saying. Nothing is ultimately true and it all contradicts. 

Paul said, our only hope is the resurrection of the dead, and they say, ‘throw it away, it’s useless, when I die I go to heaven.’ They take a short cut, by-pass, throw away, thumb their nose at the resurrection. Paul said, it’s our only hope, (Acts 23:6; 24: 15, 1 Peter 1:3). What do you do with something like that? The Bible says, that if there is no resurrection of the dead, we are finished (1 Cor 15: 12-14).  And the church says, ‘we’ve got a short-cut, straight to heaven.’

Like this cartoon I saw, there was a sign to grandmother house and off they went. Then there was another sign, to grandmothers house 'shortcut'... it doesn‘t work like that.

Here's another scripture on this, there are probably more. I’m putting together more of these scriptures then ever before and I realize there is a lot to substantiate these truths.

John 6:45  It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me.
v. 46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save He that is from God, He hath seen the Father.

So has anybody ever seen God? No. Ever see His shape? No. Ever heard His voice? No. Did they ever hear the voice of God in the OT?  'Huh?' Yes they did. Did they see His shape? Yes he did. “and you shall see My back parts” (Exodus 33: 18-23). Well wait a minute, I thought nobody saw God or heard God in the OT? In the OT it said they heard God, Deut. 4:33.  Okay, this can get confusing. Let’s see if we can unravel this. 

The first thing I want to show, is Jesus Christ existed before His human form. We are going to prove this, I have 18 proofs.

[1] "These things says the Amen [Jesus] the faithful and True Witness [Jesus] the beginning of the creation of God" (Rev. 3:14).
There are three theories about how Christ came about.
1)  He came about for the first time as a human being, out of a physical mother. That was the first time Christ ever existed.
2)  He was created sometime before that and then came into the mother.
3)  Then you have, He is eternal, He always existed.

Very few believe He just came into existence as a physical human being, for the first time ever... though I had one man argue with me for weeks. He said, ‘no, in the beginning was the Word and it was the Father, that the Word was God and not Christ.' Not too many people believe that, but some do. 

Most people follow the Christian tradition and they believe no. 3, that Christ was eternal, He’s part of the trinity and He’s always existed. But of course the truth is no. 2, Jesus Christ was created.

-"the Origin of God’s creation" (James Moffatt).
-"God’s creative Original" (Concordant Literal New Testament).
-"The Chief of the creation of God" (Young’s Translation).
-"the Origin, and Beginning, and Author of God’s creation" (The Amplified New Testament).

Well the truth of the matter is from those translations, you can’t actually prove that He is not eternal, by that statement. But you say, 'yea He’s the beginning, He started the creation, He‘s eternal.' So to me it’s a proof that HE is the beginning. Not the beginning of what God has created on the earth, but He Himself is "the beginning" of God’s creation. It depends how you emphasize. You have the same sentence with two totally different meanings. 

It’s like, I tell you this day (today I’m telling you), you shall be in paradise. Or, I tell you today, you shall be in paradise. 

And there‘s this one. What’s that up in the road ahead? Or, what’s that up in the road, a head?

So we won’t place a lot of emphasis on that one. But one thing that we do know from that one is, before He was human, He was there! So we know whatever His beginning was, He was there, at the beginning.

[2] "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Rev. 1:08).
"Almighty" Strong’s #G3841 "pantokrator; the all ruling, that is, God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty, Omnipotent."

Well it sounds pretty Godly to me and it sounds like He is contributing that to Jesus Christ. But again, it tells us “the beginning and the end,” but we can’t conclusively prove... we know He was at the beginning. But is He eternal or was He created? We still don’t know.

Here’s the proof about who this almighty is and then we learn something else about this and bring it down until, we say wait a minute. We see this is not speaking about God the father, for sure. If God and Christ are really totally equal, in that being eternal, we still have a problem and let me go through it here. 

This "Almighty" is the "Alpha & Omega." This "Alpha and Omega" is called "First and Last" in Rev. 1:11 and "First and Last" in 1:17. But we still can’t conclusively prove it from that, that He was there. But then we read in verse 18, is the One who became "DEAD." Now the thing is, can God die? If Christ is eternally existing with His Father, eternally, how could He DIE? Can an eternal God die?

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I found eleven places in the scripture on this. Ironically I taught this to somebody and thereafter they said they discovered it. They named their website after it. But I discovered this about five years ago. Eleven places where it talks about this .

1. "Him which is, and which was, and which is to come" (Rev. 1:4).
2. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, which is, and which was, and which is to come" (Re. 1:08).
3. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" (Rev. 1:11).
4. "I am the first and the last" (Rev. 1:17)
5. "I am He that lives, and was DEAD; and, behold, I am alive" (Rev. 1:18).

It’s the same One. It’s the same Alpha and Omega, the beginning and end, the is, was and is to come.  “was DEAD and behold I was alive.”

6. "the first and the last, which was DEAD, and is alive" (Rev. 2:08).
7. "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come" (Rev. 4:08).
8. "Oh Lord God Almighty, which art, and was, and are to come" (Rev. 11:17).
9. "Thou art righteous, O Lord, which are, and was, and shall be" (Rev. 16:5).
10. "And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely" (Rev. 21:6).
11. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last" (Rev. 22:13).

So this “Alpha and Omega,” beginning and end,” “the First and the last,” “who is, and was, and is to come.”   Was DEAD.
This is not God the Father! God the Father never died and God can not die.

Now there is a scripture (1 Tim. 2:5), that I have been taking another look at. Like I say, if I make a mistake I just have no problem saying I was wrong about this or that. 

1Tim 6:13  I charge thee in the sight of God(so who is the subject here - God), who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed the good confession;
v. 14  that thou keep the commandment, without spot, without reproach, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
v. 15  which in its own times He shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Well you say that’s got to be talking about Jesus Christ. Well maybe not. I mean God is everything that Jesus Christ is too, you know. Who is the Savior of the world? Jesus Christ? God is the Savior of the world! Yes Jesus Christ is the channel through who it comes. But God almighty is the Savior of the world. He’s also the Creator. We are actually going to find out, who actually did the creating? Christ. But who is the Creator? God the Father, okay. But we are going to see it specifically, in detail. So then it says;

1Tim 6:15  “which in its own times He shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
v. 16  who only hath immortality…”

I always thought that was speaking about Christ. But I’m thinking now, no, he’s talking about God. God only has immortality;

v. 16 “… dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man hath seen, nor can see…”

Isn’t this talking about God, the Father? Well what does it matter?   
Well here’s the thing. Where does it say if somebody is able to have the title God, that you have to be eternal for that? I don’t know of any. 

There is no doubt about it Jesus Christ now has immortality, that means He can’t die. But we are talking about a time when God ‘only’ had immortality. Where did Christ say He got His life? He got it from the Father (John 5:26).
But you always want to think about these things. Someone will say, ‘well that’s talking about His human flesh, you know human.’ No, I think these things are dual. These things pertain to Him ‘before’ His human flesh. You know He talked about the glories and stuff He had before (John 17:5). Did He have a glory as a human? He prayed for the glory He ‘once’ had, so did He not have any glory then? Well, He did have glory. We read that in flesh and blood He did have glory.

John 1:14  And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

He didn’t have the glory that He had though. I mean it was much more, it was much grander. He didn’t have all that glory, because He diminished Himself. We are coming to that very powerful scripture.

[Someone's comment: Scripture says, “My Father is greater than I.”] Some say, ‘well yea He says that, because He was still in the flesh.’ They say, 'well yea if He’s in the flesh.' But then we have something that I discovered, I never heard anyone else say it. Jesus had a God! It’s right there. After His resurrection, He had a God (John 20:17).

John 20:17  Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

So you think the Father had a God? Come on. Somebody will say, ‘well how could you be God and you have a God, you are lesser than God, so it can’t be.’ Yes you can. 

We have to learn what it means to take the title God, it’s more of a title, like somebody’s last name. God’s name is not God. God is a title. God is the same title that the heathers use. In the Hebrew it’s EL - Elohim, El is singular, God, Elohim is plural. What did the pagans call their god? elohim, they called them el and elohim. 

In the NT we have Lord and God, Kurios and Theos, those are Greek words. What does Theos mean in Greek? God. Who is the Greek Theos? Zeus. It’s the same word. So you can apply the same word to a man or God, but they take on different meanings, it depends on which one you’re applying it to. We have knowledge and God has knowledge. Is it the same knowledge? No. We have a certain amount of power, God has power. Same power? No, it's a world of difference, but you use the same word to describe it. You know we have a certain amount of righteous imputed to us and God is righteous, which is the most righteous? It’s the same word though. 

It says when Jesus was raised, He was raised a living Spirit.

1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Was He a living Spirit before that? I don’t know. I tried to find a scripture in the OT (the OT is big), that said ‘God is spirit,’ and I couldn’t find one, you know about the OT God. In the NT Jesus Christ said of His Father.

John 4: 21 “…the hour cometh, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, shall ye worship the Father.”
v. 22  “Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.”
v. 23  “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth…”

God is spirit. We have a statement like that in the NT. We don’t have one like that in the OT, at lease I can’t find one.

So could Jesus Christ be as mighty as God and still be able to die? Not only could He, He had to. Because that’s who died. The One who spoke to Moses, is the One who died. How did He die? Now no one could have killed Him, He was too powerful. But He could lay down His life. He could do it Himself and He did. Put all the scripture together. Christ said, “I lay down My life, no one takes it from Me.”(John 10:17-18). Someone would have you believe that God said, You will die. No, He volunteered. He said “I lay down My life,” no one takes it, He volunteered. But how could He do that? He’s the Creator of the universe! 

[3] "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM [Gk: I exist]" (John 8:58). "Ere Abraham came into being, I AM" (Concordant Version).
Well some say it means, before Abraham was, I Am He. What does that change? That doesn’t change anything, I am He. Who? What did God say to Moses when he said, who shall I say sent me, when I go back to Egypt? He said you tell them, "I AM WHO I AM." Or in the KJ, “I AM THAT I AM” sent you. I existed, the One who exist, I Am, that’s the One, tell them I Am sent you. Christ said, “before Abraham was I Am,” alright. So, and the personage that spoke to Moses and said “I Am” you go back a couple of verse and you see, it’s God. It was God who said I AM, alright. 

Now when you go thought the OT, you read about ‘God’ and you read about ‘the Lord.’ We are going to find out who this ‘God’ and who this ‘Lord’ is, or is it the same one or who in the world is it talking about? Because if God is God and Jesus is God and all through the Bible we read about God, well which one is it talking about? What do we know about the Father - God? If no man ever saw Him and no man ever heard His voice. Show me something in here, that God said it. Because the second it was said, it can’t be God, because nobody ever heard His voice.

[4] John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God...

Actually and literally this verse says, "God was the Word" (Concordant).

John 1:1-3  …and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by HIM (the Word) and without Him was not anything made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, the only begotten of the Father?"

The Word of God, that is the Word - Logos - Spokesman. Jesus Christ has a name on His side (Revelation 19) and that name is, “the Word of God” (verse 13). Jesus Christ is the Word - Spokesman - Logos - representative - messenger of God. Because nobody has ever heard God or seen Him. So if God wants to convey something to the human race, He does it through His Word - His Spokesman - His Messenger - His Logos - Jesus Christ.

Now in Genesis how do we know that it’s not God the Father speaking? Because no one has ever heard His voice or seen His shape for that matter. So when ever you hear a voice, it’s not God... well not exactly. 

[5] How can we be absolutely sure that this is not the Father speaking in Genesis? Answer: "And the Father Himself, which has sent Me, has born witness of Me. Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape" (John 5:37). Did Moses hear God’s voice? Answer: "Did ever people hear the voice of GOD speaking out of the midst of the fire, as you have heard, and live?" (Deut. 4:33). Did Moses see the shape of God? "you shall SEE MY BACK PARTS." (Exodus 33:18-23). This is Jesus!

[6] "For by HIM [Jesus] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him" (Col. 1:15-19).

By Jesus Christ... that’s right He made everything.

"Let this mind be in you, which was [is] also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant [slave], and was made in the likeness of men"(Phil. 2:5-7).

Now here we learn a little more of what this is about. When it says “mind” it is the disposition of God Himself. Where it says “equal with God” it is the same amount or degree and so on. 

“Being in the form of God…”  is being inherently in the form of God. Inherently, that’s an interesting word, it means possessed at birth or the inborn, right. I thought now that is interesting, that's 'before' He became man, He was by birth - inborn. 

Strong’s uses the word, He existed as a 'innate.' Existent as an innate birth, a right by birth. That is what it means, a right by or through birth. Jesus Christ was BORN. To which of the angels did He ever say, you are My son I have begotten you... as a little boy in a manger? He was His Son, 'from the beginning!' The whole idea of Jesus Christ, was to be a Son, from the beginning. Now it says. 

Phi 2:6  …thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
v. 7  but made Himself of no reputation, and took on Himself the form of a servant(slave), and was made in the likeness of man.

So this was an inborn right of birth, to have these powers. What did He do? Where it says, "He made Himself of no reputation," the KJ margin says, He empted Himself of all His privileges. I mean He is so mighty and everything, I mean you’re not going to kill Him. He has got to reduce down, to something really small, compared to what He was. He voluntarily did that, “He took it on Himself,” you see. He was made low enough to kill. It says in Hebrews, “A little lower than the angels,” so they could kill Him. How was that accomplished? He emptied Himself of everything God had given to Him. I guess God could have taken it away, but He didn’t take it away, Christ gave it up.
Now here is a verse you might not think proves that Christ is the Creator.

[7] “For though there be that are called gods (theos is plural), whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many; But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, OF Whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ BY Whom are all things, and we by Him" (I Cor. 8:5-6).

Everything, “all things” are out 'of ' God. The word "of" in this verse is ek ex and it means--origin, from, out of, like exist (to get out of, to exist). Here is the Concordant Translation "there is One God, the Father, OUT OF WHOM ALL IS."  If "all things are out of God," then certainly that includes Jesus. Where is Jesus Christ 'from'? Is He some 'thing'? He is the grandest thing of all. “All things,” are ek ex from the Father. So where did Christ come from? It says “all things” are of or out of (ek ex) God. There is only one God, the Father, and we in Him. “And one Lord Jesus Christ BY Whom” that means through or the channel of. There it is! 

Everything, all knowledge, the plan of the universe is out of God. But then it is channeled through Jesus Christ. Why?  He’s the Spokesman, and the creator, and the Savior, and the example to humanity. Because God can’t come down and face us, face to face. Christ in His glory, in the OT, you couldn’t face Him either, it would have blown you away. But He emptied Himself. Christ talked about "My Father, your Father; My God, your God." (John 20:17) 

So everything there is, is out of God and then it is through or by Jesus Christ, that He channeled everything that there is.

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[8] The Prophets: "Searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of CHRIST which was in them [the prophets of old]" (I Pet. 1:11). Some argue that this means "the spirit of ANOINTING was on them, not that Jesus existed back in those days. Well let’s read the next Scripture:

[9] The Fathers under Moses: "did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock WAS CHRIST" (I Cor. 10:4).
One guy argued with me, one of those that says that Christ was never the Creator, He just came into being. He said the ‘rock’ was anointed. Well what God anoints rocks? It was Christ!  

[10] Jesus does acknowledge that Mary was His mother and all, but He said here; "believe that I came out from God. "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world" (John 16:27-28).
If He just existed the first time coming out from Mary, then He didn’t come out from God, He came out from Mary, you see.  So if He came out from God, He had to exist before Mary, right. So He was before Mary.

"I came out from THEE" (John 17:08).
"I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He SENT ME" (John 8:42).
"because God SENT His only begotten Son into the world the Father SENT the Son to be the Saviour of the world" (I John 3:8 & 14).
He didn’t send a spiritual sperm into Mary. He sent His Son!
1 John 4:14 “… the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.”

[11] Where was Jesus before His human birth? "For I [Jesus] came down from heaven not to do Mine Own will, but the will of Him that sent Me" (John 6:38).

Jesus had a "will" before and after He "came down from heaven."
You know some of these verses I had just read over, then I think, ‘what did that say?’  “I came down From heaven,” You know He didn’t come down from the manger or something. It says “I came down from heaven,”  But see you can’t come down from heaven, unless you were up there.

When we say, ‘up in heaven,’ we just mean ‘high’ as a realm. Not in the direction, up mean high, you know lift up your head up on high. It doesn’t literally mean to look up in the sky, but to a higher level of spirituality. So Christ couldn’t have come down from heaven, unless He was there.

[12] "And now, O Father, glorify You Me with Your Own Self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS" (John 17:5).

That certainly puts Him before Mary.

[13] How long has the Father loved the Son? "for You loved Me BEFORE the foundation of the world" (John 17:24). Then Jesus had to EXIST before the foundation of the world.

[14] "GOD has spoken unto us by His Son by Whom also He made the worlds [Gk: aions/ages]" (Heb. 1:1-2).
The Greek word there is aions, but the aions began with the physical creation. So again He was there and He did it.

[15] God calls His Son "God."  "But unto the Son He says, Thy throne O GOD is for ever and ever [eon of the eon] (Heb. 1:08). This is God speaking, not that we are hearing His voice, it’s just that this is what God is relating to us. It’s not in a actual voice, because nobody has ever heard His voice, but through inspiration, this is what He says. "Your throne, O God,” (Heb 1:08)  

I get a kick out of Jehovah Witness, they say, no, that is ‘God is Thy throne.’ That‘s the way it should be translated and not “Thy throne O God.” They say, God is your throne Jesus or God to you Jesus, is like a throne. No. Farther more, it is a quotation out of the OT. It is the same way there, Psalms  45:6  “Your throne, O God.”   God calls His Son, God.  

You don’t have to be eternal to be God. You just have to be like God, in all that God is able to do. God can create, God can destroy, God has all power at His disposal. When He gives that to somebody, that somebody is God. When you can do all that God can do, you’re God.
Jesus Christ said to His disciples, the last couple of verses in Matt. 28, remember He said “all power in heaven and earth is given unto Me.” This is the way God is. God wants to give us everything that He is.

1Cor 15:28 “…that God may be all in all.” This isn’t anything that He holds in reserve. He will always be our Father, we will never be His father. Jesus Christ will always be subservient to the Father. It says all things are given into His hands, in that He is over all things. It says the Father, but the Father is not given unto Him, you know. But all things  are ’under’ Him. It’s a good things we have that, are some people would be just too dumb to understand. But no, the Father is not under Christ.  

"The glorious appearing [the Father is not appearing] of the great GOD and our Saviour Jesus Christ" (Titus 2:13).
It says, “appearing” the Father is not appearing. Why? He’s invisible and nobody has ever seen Him. He’s Christ and He’s what? “the great God and Savior.”

"Now to HIM [Jesus] present you faultless before the presence of HIS glory [God] To the only wise GOD our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever(eon)" (Jude 24-25).

"And Thomas answered and said unto Him, my Lord and my GOD." (John 20:28).

Now that is in all of the manuscripts, it’s not a wrong translation. Thomas called Jesus Christ “my Lord and my GOD."

[16] John the Baptist said that Jesus was "before me" (John 1:15), yet John was 6 month older than Jesus (Luke 1:57). You read things like that and you think, ‘well what does that mean?’ What did he mean He(Jesus) was before me(John). To understand that you turn to Luke 1:36 “And behold, Elisabeth thy kinswoman(cousin), she also hath conceived a son(John) in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her…” John was six months older than Jesus, but John said Jesus was ‘before’ Me. How was He before him? If John was six months older than Jesus and Jesus was before Him, He had to exist in some other form, before He was Jesus Christ the man, see. Now sometimes you wouldn’t put these scriptures together, but when you do, there it is.

[17] "For then must He often have suffered since the foundation of the world?" (Heb. 9:26).

Jesus clearly existed back then.

[18] This one might blow you away. How could God give birth, to a God? I guess you would say ‘a’ God, He is His Son, ‘a’ Son, ‘a’ God. How do you give birth to a God?
John 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

Now we have always heard, that we know nobody has ever seen God the Father, heard His voice, seen His shape ever. The only begotten Son, He is the One who reveals who the Father is, right. The Concordant translates that “unfolds Him.” You know, unfolds - unravels who and what the Father is to humanity. Because the first part said, nobody has ever seen God. But here is the point I want to draw attention to, “the only Begotten Son,” Son is not in some manuscripts. The Greek "Theos" [God] is in the manuscripts.
Let me give you John 1:18  the Concordant version and some others.

a. "God no one has ever seen. The only-begotten GOD Who is in the bosom of the Father, He unfolds Him" (Concordant Literal Version)

b. "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, Who is at the Father’s side, has made Him known" (New International Version).

c. "the only begotten Son, Who is God and close to the Father’s heart" (The New Testament in the Language of Today By William Beck).

d. "No one has ever seen God. It is God the only Son Who is close to the Father’s heart" (New Revised Standard Version).

e. "No one has seen God at any time: An Only-Begotten God, The One existing in the bosom of the Father, He has interpreted Him" (Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible). Etc.

How about that. The only begotten God. Jesus Christ the only begotten God. Well He’s the firstfruit, right. When you read the Bible you read, “In the beginning,” but the word should be, “In beginning,” or “A beginning,” and not ‘the,’ it’s not there. “In a beginning, God - Elohim created the heavens and the earth.” Now Jesus Christ is the Firstfruit.
We just read, Heb 1:5 “For to which of the angels said He at any time, you art My Son, This day have I begotten you?” And we read over in verse 9, “Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy FELLOWS.”

But we are going to be His brothers. We have to be begotten too. Jesus Christ is the Firstfruit of them that slept(1 Cor 15 :20), the Firstfruit. James says we are a kind of Firstfruits (James 1:18). In Rev. 14, we read that the 144,000 are the Firstfruits. Do you know what it actually says in the Hebrew, in Genesis 1:1 “In Firstfruit God created the heaven and earth.”  

Who is the Firstfruit?  Jesus Christ!
“In Firstfruit, God created the heaven and the earth.”
“In Jesus Christ, God created the heaven and earth.”

Audio 5


If Jesus is God and the Father is God and we read in the Bible about God, how do we know who it is? How do we know? 
So we need to clarify some of these things.
Here is an interesting verse.

Psalms 110:1  The Lord says to my lord: "Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool."

Mat 22:41  While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 
Mat 22:42  Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 
Mat 22:43  He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 
Mat 22:44  The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 
Mat 22:45  If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 

Christ ask the Pharisees, ‘who is the Christ or who’s Son is He‘? He didn’t say He was the Christ, like one time when He ask them, ‘who do you say the Son of man is.’ He is just asking about the Christ and not saying He is the Christ, He’s saying whoever He is when He comes. The Christ, whose Son is He? They all said, He’s the Son of David. So then He said to them, well how did David say, “the Lord says to my lord, sit at My right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool."

If the Messiah, the Christ, is to be the son of David, how does David call Him Lord? Think about this scripture for a while, that will get your head spinning. What in the world does it mean? What is He saying? Can anybody explain that? The Christ, who’s Son is He? They said, He’s the Son of David, they got that from some of the prophesies. He is the Son of David.
Alright David was inspired to write, “The Lord says to my lord: Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool." If Christ is the Son of David, how is it that David calls Him Lord? That’s the point where it says, from that day forward they didn’t dare question Him anymore. But what is the answer? 

Now we have this in the Greek, it‘s kurios and kurios? “The Lord( Kurios) said unto My Lord(Kurios).” You can’t learn who the Lord is, because it’s the same Greek word. But in the OT in Psalms 110:1, the Lord is Jehovah or rather Yehwah. You know that Yahweh is more correct, but Jehovah is so much easier to say.
So in the OT it’s “the Lord( Jehovah) said unto My Lord (Adon).” But Christ said that Kurios is My Kurios. But in the Hebrew it’s different, it’s Jehovah said to Adon. I’ve got a rather lengthy explanation for all this and I don’t want to take the time to go through it all.
So from this we learn that there are any number of things stated in the OT, that when you bring them to the NT, they apply to different people. If you look at all the prophecies concerning Jesus Christ, they are not talking about Jesus Christ, they are talking about some person in the OT, as applying to Christ through fulfillment.
So David is writing the Psalms and David is saying, “The Lord says to my lord…" we know who the Lord is, just look at the Greek word, it’s Jehovah. We know that the second ‘My Lord’ is Adon. Adon means like my lord or my master, owner or whatever. So we got Jehovah, so who is Adon?

See the church teaches this is God the Father, saying of Jesus Christ. No, it can’t be God the Father, because it’s Jehovah and Jehovah is Jesus. He is talking down to somebody. So this is a higher authority talking down to somebody, who is Adon, which is used a lot for just a physical human masters. This is obviously David. Jehovah is saying this of David. We would say, ‘yea but David is talking, so how could he be saying that?’ Well, they speak in the third person all the time. You’ll find that in the titles of some of the songs all the time. One is the song of Solomon, and Solomon is speaking and he talks about the son of David, that’s him. He says the son of David, that’s me. Well, ‘why are you calling yourself the son of David?’ He’s just using the third person, they do that all the time. 

So you’ve got, Jehovah said to my Adon, in the NT that becomes, God said to My Son Jesus. Because now we have who fulfilled this. I mean David did put his foot on a lot of his enemies, but not all. When he died he still had enemies. That’s why he told his son to kill them and make it bloody. 

It is Jesus Christ who is going to have all enemies put under His feet. You read that in Hebrews 2:8 and again in Corinthians 15. How long does Christ rule? Until He what? 

1Cor 15:25  for it is right for Him to reign until He has PUTS ALL THE ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.
v. 26  The last enemy made to cease is death. 

So don’t be fooled by these words. I mean people might try to trip you up and say, ‘oh you don’t know what you are talking about.’ You will have all the notes, but you will have to study them a little bit.

Where, Jehovah said to My Adon, in the NT it’s, God saying to My Son. That how this is fulfilled. We can learn how this works out in fulfillment in Matt 1:1, where it plainly says that Jesus Christ is the Son of David. 

Luke 1:32  He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.

God says He will give unto Jesus the throne of His father David. So there is a scriptural reference that the throne of David really belongs to Jesus Christ. He is both the Lord and the Son. Of course the Pharisees didn’t know that and couldn’t figure it out. Christ tripped them up on it and didn’t tell them the answer. 

Here’s an interesting thing in Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.” That can be plural because it says, Elohim, “let ‘Us’ make man in ‘Our’ image.” It’s a plural pronoun, right? What’s interesting is you come down to chapter 2 and it says;

Gen 2:4  These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah/Elohim made earth and heaven.

Jehovah? Did they just slip that in there? Now in Genesis 1:1, Elohim created the heaven and the earth. In chapter 2, Jehovah/Elohim. So we have Elohim in chapter 1, now we have Jehovah/Elohim. 

I know I’m going to get this really out of sequence here, but I have to go with the flow as God inspires me. So I’ll just talk about it here. I mean we are being introduced here to what is really happening. But most people just don’t see it, they just don’t get it.

So we have God created. We always think of God as being the Father, always God and Jesus Christ. But here in the OT when God spoke to Moses, it wasn’t God the Father. Because He spoke to him and no man has ever heard the Father and we already showed 18 verses, that proves Christ existed before humans existed. He was at the beginning. He is the beginning. He is the Alpha, you see. He is the beginning of the creation of God. He is the Firstfruit.

So when it says God - Elohim, who is it talking about? It’s the ‘We’ and the ‘Us.’ Elohim is the ’We’ and the ’Us.’   So it’s BOTH!

What have we learned in 1 Cor 8:6? All is out of ek ex - out of God, through Jesus. Keep it all together, just go over it and cross reference your Bible. Make a list of a couple of scriptures, next to the ones you are real familiar with, so you will remember those. So you will start to remember some of this stuff. Remember what we learned in the first chapter of Hebrews? You see, as we go over this more and more it will start to click with you.

Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers.

What, there’s another one. God spoke unto our fathers? Who is this God here? This is Theos, this is the God the Father, this is not Jesus Christ. In the NT Theos is God the Father, except where it says our God (Theos) and Savior, then it’s talking about Jesus Christ. But this God here is God the Father. He spoke unto our fathers? Who spoke unto our fathers? Jesus Christ! Is this a contradiction? No. The speaking came out of God, through the Son, because He’s the Spokesman.
You got to get it out of your head that God is the name of Jesus’ Father. God is not the name of Jesus’ Father. God is a title that is used even by the pagans. Baalim was a theos, Zeus was a theos, all these pagan gods were theos’ and elohims and els and adonay too.
But usually when it talks about God as Lord, it’s Adonay, not Adon. But you see the Lord God and that shouldn’t be really Lord. Because it’s just confusing, because sometimes you have ‘the Lord God’ or it will say ‘my God is Lord,’ in psalms. It’s Jehovah(Adon), but they didn’t want to say ’the Lord is Lord,’ or I think it is something like that. So they changed it to God, no, but it should be Jehovah Adonay. But since they always translate Jehovah to Lord, it would have come out Lord Lord and they didn’t think that sounded right. There is just no consistency or not very good consistencies sometimes in the KJ. That’s where Concordant is very good. The Concordant does not translate it, they call it Elohim. They leave it right there in the Hebrew, Elohim. But notice this;

Heb 1:3  who being the brightness of His glory (speaking of Jesus Christ) and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Okay back to verse 2.

Heb 1:2  has in these last days spoken to us by His Son(God), whom He has appointed heir of all things, by whom also He (who? God) made the worlds;

Who is the “by whom?” Jesus Christ. But who did it? God. How? Through Christ. So who did it? They both did it, that’s why it is Elohim. “In the beginning Elohim…” God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, created the universe. It was out of God, through His Son. Both. They are both the One God. Well why does it introduce, here in chapter 2, that the heaven and the earth was created by Jehovah/Elohim? Because it’s letting us know who the Son is, for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear and all that.

So Jesus Christ is being introduced to us here. Why? Because He’s going to start talking. To who? To Adam and then to Eve, you see. He’s the spokesman and for the next 50 verses or whatever and maybe many more than that, it’s always the Lord God or Jehovah/Elohim.

So let’s do this, this is not scriptural, but I think it will help understand it and remember it. Let’s do it this way, God is like a title, like family.
I’m in the Smith family. I’m the father of my Smith family. My son (who is no longer with us), but my son Blake is also a Smith, right. Somebody might say, ‘Where do you belong?’ I belong to the Smith family, Ray Smith is my dad, and I’m a Smith and he’s a Smith. But I’m not my dad, my dad is older than me and greater than me. Think about that one for a second.

On this poster here, you have got the Son and the Father. Notice the Son has kind of a nice trim beard and the Father’s goes way down to His belt buckle. So He’s defiantly older, right? Excuse me, how could you have the concept of a Father and Son, who eternally existed together? A Father and a Son, both eternal? That’s like a contradiction of words, isn’t it? Father is always older than the his son. A father is always first. 

So think of it this way, God is a title and it has a meaning. But don’t look it up, because you would go nuts, if you try to look up the ethnology of the word God on Google or whatever. It’s a difficult word, they really have trouble trying to you know, some trace it back to sand script. 

There’s the god of the Norsemen and the gott of the Germanic tribes. But as far as they can determine ethnologically, it means the Placer. The One who places everything. The beginning of everything that moves or He’s the Placer or Poser or the Arbiter of all things.
It’s a title. We say even the pagans use God as a title or theos or elohim or el. They used all of these different language words for their gods, it a title. That’s why Paul said, “as there are gods many, and lords many…” (1 Cor 8:5) in the world and they knew what he was talking about. He said, “for us there is but one God…” And since Christ came to tell us who He is, we know who it is, it’s the Father! Out of whom, out of/ek ex, whom is all things. 

Jesus Christ is a thing.  He is the Son of God, the very image of Him. Well if He is something, where did He come from? Out of GOD! Where did everything else come from?  Through Christ! Jesus is Jehovah. Jehovah what? Jehovah/Elohim! Who is His Father? His Father, is the Father, Elohim! Fair enough.

They are one God, because you can’t have two different perfections. There is only one perfection. When you reach ultimate perfection, that’s God. There is only one such ultimate perfection. If you are a part of that perfection, you are God. That’s what God is, perfect. Jesus Christ is perfect, the express absolute total assumption of His Father That makes Him God. It isn’t something He acquired, on His own. But I do believe He did a lot. And His Father gave Him those powers, when He was able to handle them. 
We are to be given power, when we prove that we can handle it. 

ONE GOD/page 2

So whatever you read about God in the OT, virtually always, it could be a reference slightly different, but mostly not. In the NT we have God and it’s speaking of the Father. Paul introduces every book he has written with that salutation.

Rom 7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord!

2Cor 1:2  Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

And of course if you got a trinity, then Paul really messed up. 

1Cor 1:1  Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God…

Rom 1:7  …Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Holy Spirit is not there. If the Holy Spirit is a person, a personality of a triune Godhead or divinity and Paul has 13 books, but never once acknowledges the Holy Spirit, something is wrong with Paul. 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians… etc., any book you open up, there is just those two.

Eph 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…

Phi 1:2  Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:3  Grace to you and peace from God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ,

There is no Holy Spirit. Not that the Holy Spirit is nothing or of no consequence, it’s just not a person. Jesus Christ and God the Father ARE the Holy Spirit! Jesus Christ is that Spirit! 

John 16:7  … I will send him (the Comforter) to you. v. 15  … He shall take of Mine, and shall show it unto you.

What is He going to take of Christ? His Spirit. Where did Christ get that Spirit? From God the Father. But He is going to take of Christ, because it’s going to be the personality of Christ, see. 

Paul didn’t say, I’m crucified with God, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but the FATHER lives in me. No, it’s, “I have been crucified with CHRIST, nevertheless I live; yet not I, but CHRIST lives in me.” (Gal 2:20)  But see it’s the personality of Christ, that is the spirit that lives in us and that spirit comes from God. So we can call it God’s Holy Spirit, even though it’s channeled through Christ. Jehovah /Elohim, God the Father(Elohim), you know. 

[Someone says;  Isa 9:6  For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.]
Some will say wait a minute, “The everlasting Father?” Christ (Jehovah) says, He was a Father to Israel. He’s the eonian God to Israel. So are we understanding God better? 

Okay, let’s take this a little farther. We read about God/Elohim, we learn about the Lord God - Jehovah/Elohim, and sometimes we hear about El. 
Now we know in the garden, Christ... though Jehovah is doing the talking, because no man has ever heard God the Father. So the Lord God (Jehovah/Elohim) said unto the woman, “and the Lord God said…” Why did He say ‘said’? Because He’s the spokesman, He’s the Word. He’s the Word of who?  Elohim, and He is Jehovah/Elohim and His Father is Elohim. There is only one Elohim. So it’s the Lord God - Jehovah/Elohim.

When we come to the NT then we read about God. Jesus Christ said, they ask Him what is the greatest commandment, He said “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind” (Matt 22:37). The Greek says, you shall love the Kurios your Theos with all your heart and so on. 

Kurios/Theos… who was He talking about? The Father. He’s quoting the OT, that comes out of Deuteronomy, where Jehovah Himself says, “You shall love the Lord your God” (Deu 6:5). Not Kurios/Theos, but Jehovah/Elohim. 

Well who are we to worship with all our heart? Jehovah/Elohim or Kurios/Theos of the NT, who we know is the Father! But Jehovah/Elohim (where it’s quoted from the OT), is Jesus Christ. Who is it talking about? It’s always talking about BOTH. ALWAYS!

Even though we give Jesus the designation Jehovah/Elohim, it still includes the Father. Why? Because there is only ONE Elohim! He is the Jehovah, one God - there is the Father, one God and together they are the one God. You just have to believe the scriptures. 

John 10:30  I and My Father are one.

One what? One God and it’s understood, We are one... one God. We two, are one. Whenever two are of the same mind and spirit, they are considered one.
Now we only have one analogy of that in the scripture, and it’s of a husband and wife. Isn’t it interesting when He says that they are joined together. Because when you are joined together, it’s like you stick a plug in the wall. The plug that you stick in is the male and the wall plug is called the female. So it’s when a man and woman join there bodies. They are literally inside of each others body, they are one, see, literally they are one. That is the most intimate relationship there is, on the human plain, sexual intercourse with a man and a woman, you literally become one body. Because it signifies being one in Spirit. But Paul says he speaks of this concerning Christ and the church in Ephesians. He says this is a great mystery.

Eph 5:28  So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.
v. 29  For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church.

See the connection.

Eph 5:30  For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.
v. 31  "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
v. 32  This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

So what is it about Jesus and His Father, that make them one? I mean they don’t have a sexual union, they are both masculine. How do they be, one? There is one other all encompassing factor….. they are one Spirit! 

You could get a superficial feeling of this, when you have a group of men in the army, let’s say the navy seals or somebody. They are so precisely trained to do one job together, that 6 of them function as one, see. They are multiple individuals, but function as one. We call it, I think it’s Latin, Esprit de corps….. the spirit of the corps, the group. That’s what Jesus Christ and God His Father have, they have a lot of Esprit de corps. They are one Spirit, it’s the same spirit and it’s the same spirit of perfection wisdom and knowledge, love and power. Same Spirit! How could they both have that and not be God?  But there is only one Spirit. 

Wherever God gives His spirit in this room, it’s all the same spirit. Those of us who have that spirit, have a certain Esprit de corps with one another. Now we don’t do it as well, I realize that and some of us are virtually strangers. But if we can talk to each other for an hour or so and know that we have that bond. You would trust me and I would trust you anywhere. Why? Because you have the spirit of God. 

[the section was taken from the Nashville notes]

"There is ONE GOD" (I Cor.8:5); "God is SPIRIT" (John 6:24);

"by ONE SPIRIT  baptized into one body" (I Co. 12:13);

"But he that is joined unto the Lord IS ONE SPIRIT" (I Cor. 6:17); "I and My Father are ONE" (John 10:30)

"There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in ONE HOPE, of your calling; ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, Who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU ALL" (Eph. 4:4-6).


Jesus spoke the words of His Father and did the works of His Father (John 14:10 & 14:24 & 5:19).

Jesus Christ "declares the FATHER" (John 1:18). And reveals the Father to whomever the Son desires (Matt. 11:27). Jesus was revealing the Father to the disciples His whole ministry, but Phillip missed it: (John 14:9-11). Remember when Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"? (John 8:58). He was also revealing HIMSELF as the God of the Old Testament.

Even the Holy Spirit we all have comes from God THROUGH Jesus Christ.
Jesus is that Comforter, that Spirit.
Our Saviour and our Brother.
The Son of God.


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