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Islam. (anyone know anything about Islam?)
addisonrocket:
I've been wondering a lot about Islam. It is said to be the fastest growing religion in the world, how could this be? I look at how America claims to be a "Christian" nation and I don't see how a nation that is so wealthy and so disobedient to their own religion and then I look at the middle east and see how un-wealthy and how obedient and zealous they are. Unlike "Christians" they put their religion before anything else.
And some claims they believe is why the Quran is divine.
1. The Beauty of the Quran
2. Scientific Details revealed in the Quran
3. Quranic inerrancy
4. The spread of Islam
5. Fulfilled prophecy
6. Miracles of Quranic Composition
7. Preservation of the Quran
Has anyone read about the miracles of the Quran? A lot of it is pretty interesting actually... you can find these sites on any search engine just type in "numeric miracles in quran". Also a lot of reasons why they believe the bible is not the inerrant word of God is because...
1. Paul is the only known author of the New Testament. (true?)
2. The first writings of the New Testament never took place until 20 years AFTER Jesus' time on Earth.
3. Paul NEVER KNEW OR EVEN MET Jesus.
and lastly...
4. Jesus never commissioned or ordered any of his teachings to be written down.
John 16:7-13.
But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt[a] in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
"I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Muslims believe this bible verse is referring to the coming of Muhammad who is said to have "SPOKE ONLY WHAT HE HEARD AND TOLD WHAT IS YET TO COME" when the angel Gabriel spoke to him the very word of God in a cave one night.
So what are your thoughts? Would it be far off to believe that Muhammad wasn't just lying his butt off and maybe the Lord actually authorized the use of a lying spirit that deceived him into thinking that he was actually the last and final prophet of God?
Evan600:
Addison,
I listened to a lot of audio on Islam. The link below has a lot of mp3 downloads, and they're free. The mp3s on Islam are by a guy name Dr. Robert Morey, and they are called Lectures on Islam. There are 11 mp3. I can't remember if the guy is preaching heresy doctrine or not. I think he just expounds on Islam. There are a whole lot of other mp3s on the site that are full of heresy, so be careful with those. I think I listened to about half of them a couple years ago.
http://server.firefighters.org/1999-2000catalog.asp
God bless
addisonrocket:
you da man
jER:
"Spiritual Discernment" comes to mind.
- Jer
Robert:
Just a few points in you post: Paul is not the only writer of the New Testament, that is clear.
The fact (?) that the writings were only compiled 20 years after proves what? Are you implying that the memories of the Apostles or writers were possibly fudged over time?
Paul DID meet Christ on the road to Damascus, and because of this and his calling he was a qualified Apostle, a fact that was never disputed by the others. It is true that Paul did not learn with Christ, but then when it was obvious to Paul that Jesus is the Christ, Paul could then see Him revealed in the old covenant.
Lastly, if Christ was the Son of God, and Mohammed was of greater authority than Christ, who was Mohammed a son of? The two understandings are incompatible.
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