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Deborah-Leigh:
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Isaiah wrote : Isa 61 : 11 For as surely as the earth brings forth its shoots, and as a garden causes what is sown in it to spring forth, so surely the Lord God WILL CAUSE rightness and justice and praise to spring forth before all the nations through the SELF-FULFILLING POWER OF HIS WORD. 8)

It is good and a giift from Him to rely, cling to and trust in HIS Word at all times everywhere and anywhere!

Peace to you brother

Arcturus :)

seminole:
I get what you are saying. I would go upside somebody's head if they were standing before me saying some of the things he gets. I have read the LOF and most others. It still seems harsh and cold to me. I know a lot of O.T. is harsh and Jesus went off on some people but more than that Jesus was kind and loving more than harsh. I just wonder if the "harshness" in the Scripture is focused on more than the loving kindness.
Hey, before anybody jumps me, I know it's not right to go upside somebody's head and I do try in my daily life to keep my temper in check.
Seminole

Deborah-Leigh:

Have you listened to the Love audio Seminole?

The Church does not teach love as is expressed and demonstrated by Christ. The Church teaches a feel good say nothing mean less kind of sentimentality that is luke warm and will be spat out by the Lord. Broad is the way and many get lost in it!

Peace to you

Arcturus

seminole:
I can't listen to audio. I don't know why I just can't make it work so all I can do is read. He writes a lot of good stuff but it kind of turns me to read the put downs. He has the right to write whatever he chooses as we all have the right to think , study what we believe.
Nole

Deborah-Leigh:
Nole you say:
I can't listen to audio.

Fair comment. The Love Audio is actually transcribed so you should go and perhaps "study" and "think" about what it teaches. It is deep and very edifying. You might get something out of it. 

I can't listen to audio. I don't know why I just can't make it work so all I can do is read. He writes a lot of good stuff

I think you will be in like mind here in the Forum on that observation! ;D

but it kind of turns me to read the put downs.

No one likes to be put down.  I do think the persons you perceive Ray to be "putting down" are blessed to have heard the gutsy scriptural truth perhaps for the first time in their lives. Can you imagine if Jesus comes and the people who you think should be handled with care see Ray and ask him "Why didn't you TELL ME! Now I have to go through the LOF!"

Chastisement and correction and rebuke are healthier than withholding Gods ways from the lost. In fact there is judgment and correction for with holding the truth if you have it and do not give it! Ray is doubly accountable because he is a Teacher. His example is sterling and I think he will complete his race the way he is going! I for one don't want to see Ray go soft or luke warm. Hot and cold is fine!  ;D  :D

He has the right to write whatever he chooses

Yes. Well this is his site and we are students in the Forum where we are supposed to be like minded and in agreement with our Teacher. If not then we have the right to think and study what we believe elsewhere not because we have the right to think and study what we believe but because this Forum has rules of conduct. This is not unlike any gathering I know of. Even the body of Christ is fit together where the hand and the foot and the eye and the ear work through the Head in harmony. Our head is Christ here. ;D

as we all have the right to think , study what we believe.

I can not help but think to ask you....have you been hurt or abused by authority and rules? If so, I can say we have that in common!

Nole

Peace to you
Arcturus :)

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