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Deborah-Leigh:
For me, Mystery Babylon has so indoctrinated and tainted the truth by teaching and convincing many to conform to the belief and fear that it is a SIN if we hurt someones FEELINGS. I once believed that lie because I wanted to be socially acceptable and morally correct. WRONG MOTIVE!....I thought it was good not to hurt someones feelings. It sounds good. It appears to be good but it is not what Jesus said or expressed when he offended the Pharisees. Even His own chosen did not think it was good and that for me shows the strenght of seduction in this false belief that Christ's example exposed when He rebuked them and chastised their feelings (ego's) and when He was hot and cold with them and NEVER LUKEWARM. His Words ARE SPIRIT and TRUTH! Does therefore Spirit and Truth blow HOT and COLD? I think it does! But MANY prefer the comfort of warm not too hot not too cold! and therein lies the potential for a death sentence such as Christ recieved!
Those called into the Image of Christ will be like HIM. Jesus did not ***** foot and tip toe around the feelings of public approval. He took up the whip...no sorry...correction...HE MADE A WHIP and turned tables and rebuked those in the House of Prayer that He cleansed without any thought to preserve the tables and feeling of those He chastised.
The Church can not risk its membership becoming like Jesus! ;D Can you just imagine what would happen in the Vatican? It happened to Bastille in France and the Berlin Wall was also ruined. So too it is written, Babylon will fall!
Isaiah 5 : 20,21 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. 21 Woe to those who are wise in their own sight.
We know and accept that God is Love yet I too, have still much to comprehend about love, Agape and Phileo and its true unfeigned manifestations. I think the whip is a manifestation of Christs corrective love. We know too that God is also a consuming fire and that we should not become luke warm to be spat out of the mouth of Christ who rebukes those who are neither hot or cold. Rev 3 : 16 So then because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spew, vomit you out of my mouth!
JESUS CHRIST SAID THAT! I think He means that those who become comfort zoners, nicy nice ego strokers....they will be spat out! ;D :D
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
seminole:
I get it about Pharisees and stuff and maybe people today too. I don't go along with the Catholic church either. Who am I to swing a whip? Are you saying if you are hot or cold you will swing the whip ? Are you looking down on those still searching? Jesus said to do unto others and love God with all your heart,etc. Does that count? I don't believe for a minute that any here, in a church, on the web or anywhere do EVERYTHING pleasing to God. Does that mean we get spit out?
Kat:
Hi Nole,
I think you totally misunderstood that post.
A lot of the questions you are asking are answered in the Lake of Fire articles.
If you have not read them all, it would probably help your understanding a lot.
Most of the posts here come from the perspective of things revealed in those articles, you will be lost here without the understanding they provide.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
sansmile:
Amen Kat,
Kindly said .
Seminole, most us of are here because we see the heresies we were taught in churches. I do thank God for leading me into church BUT i am humbled that He led me out!!!
(Rev 18:4) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
(Rev 18:5) For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
IN LOVE
Sandie
YellowStone:
Hi everyone,
I posted this in another thread, but I believe it fits perfectly here. :)
Let us not laugh at those who have not seen the light of truth, for is it really given for them to see?
Well Christ answered this very clearly
Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
But here is the paradox, who drew the church goers to the Church? Was it their own carnal desires or was it God. This is pivitol in our understanding, because even the blindest church goer has been given some truth, else they would not be there. Many of us have been these people, we walked blindly until we were given spiritual eyes to see.
Yet, it is not given for all to have an equal measure of the Spirit; there was only one man that walked the Earth that had the Entire Spirit, and even this came to him after his resurrection.
Jhn 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [unto him].
This proves beyond all doubt that God does indeed measures the amount of Spirit that anyone has according to his will. So one should not wonder they know not more, or others barely anything at all, but rather be thankful to a Gracious God for granting each of us the measure of Spiritual Truth He has.
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
Is there any person alive today that is "Luke-Warm" because they choose to be? Is it not true that they are lukewarm because God is working in them for HIS good pleasure and for our learning. He has so graciously given us the Spirit, should we not bare it's fruits in all we do, say and think?
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
All is according to Gods will, all are where they are meant to be. Why are we here? Because of his Grace and his alone.
1Cr 9:24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
Notice how Paul does not say run the race so you WIN. Salvation is not a contest, one should not look at another to guage where they are in accordance. What Paul said was: "Run in such a way as to get the prize"
This means focusing on the goal, meditating, training seeking guidance and wisdom from God, baring the fruits of the spirit in all that one does. It matters not if the race is won, rather that the race was run to the BEST of ones ability given measure of the Spirit given.
Well this is how I understand it and this is what I have got from reading Rays articles.
Love to all in Christ,
Darren
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