Hi Beloved,
Good to hear from you
I was thinking first the physical, then the spiritual. Was Jesus' baptism actually the physical example, that was to picture for us what our being baptised into His death represented? Then as He received the Holy Spirit in a physical manifestation, it represented when we receive it spiritually. Was He demonstrating physically what we will experience spiritually? It's interesting that the doves were a sin offering in the OT.
Lev. 5:7 "... two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the LORD; one for a sin offering..."
Christ said in John 5: 37 "...Ye have neither heard His voice at any time..."
So this voice could not have been the Father's 'voice,' because you could say He doesn't have a voice.
Here is a excerpt from the transcript of Ray's 'Love' Bible study.
But you can’t tell ministers of the world, that this is not literally the way it is. They think that God almighty has finger nails, and therefore He must trim them. I wonder what He does with the trimmings. It’s just nonsense.
God does not have two eyes. This Kenneth Copeland, he said God the Father is a 6 foot man. I’m laughing saying this guy is insane. Listen, if God is a man then He has two eyes and that means He can’t see behind His head. Who’s so stupid to say, God can’t see behind His head, come on. God doesn’t have hands and arms or fingers and toes or hair. This is all anthropoid. If He were a man, He would do this by the strength of His arm. But He’s not a man, He’s God, and He’s spirit. Spirit is everywhere.
He talks about those, sitting on His right hand and His left hand. It’s spiritual, He has no right hand and left hand. He means if He were like a king on the physical earth, those that sit on His right hand, would be of a greater elevated position, than those on His left. He’s talking spirit, it’s a spiritual analogy. God doesn’t sit on a throne.
GOD IS EVERYWHERE! God is Spirit and God is invisible. Now that’s what He is.
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I do believe they heard a voice, but it wasn't the Father's voice. But He could use anything in the creation to speak for Him. I beliece it was an angel. Look at this from Rev., I think this could have been the angel that spoke.
Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel coming down out of the heaven, clothed with a cloud. And a rainbow was on his head, and his face was as the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire.
v. 3 And he cried with a loud voice, like a lion roaring. And when he had cried, seven thunders spoke their sounds.
v. 4 And when the seven thunders spoke their sounds, I was about to write. And I heard a voice from Heaven saying to me,
I not sure if this all fits together right, but this is some things I found interesting.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat