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Discernment teaching by Ray
Deborah-Leigh:
On the contrary Joey. Your testimony bears witness!
Understanding comes from His Spirit! Not our debating skills.
Ray has posted this concept : that he who is persuaded against his will is of the same opinion still. The flesh wills to be right and is contrary to the Spirit. Carnality hates the Spirit and the word of God but will not admit to its error.
It is much more profitable to study the truth than try to feed it to junkies who's diet is fast food heresy and deception! They are not into good food and are only made ready once they get really sick of sin, battered by deception and ruined by their broken ideas, and then healed through repentance from Christ! :D ;D
Gena, your grandchildren are a blessing and gift! What a bonus from our Lord to you and your family! I am very happy for you! and Matt is a big kid at heart helping and encouraging! :D ;D
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
Joey Porter:
Okay, thanks for the encouragement! I thought it might bore people. 8)
seminole:
Okay, I got another question . Don't throw rocks at me just yet. I am still trying to feel the way around here and learn. I have read that Ray is the teacher sent by God right? So is he more than other people like on a higher level. Like in the Catholic church thre are different levels of leadership and those people are thought to be higher than others. But this don't mean that Ray knows everything like Jesus did does it? I don't think it means that but want to be sure. It seems like Ray has devoted his time to study and explaining things in the Bible and that is good that he is able to spend his time doing so. He still is like the rest of us and sins everyday right? I hope you don't take this wrong but I just need to know.
Nole
YellowStone:
Hi Nole,
The only way I can answer you question is by stating that Christ did NOT raise himself above any man.
Clearly Ray fits the category of a teacher. :)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Rom 12:3 ¶ For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
All that are members of the Body of Christ are members with one another, regardless of the position held.
Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
Rom 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, [let us prophesy] according to the proportion of faith;
Rom 12:7 Or ministry, [let us wait] on [our] ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
Rom 12:8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, [let him do it] with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.
Rom 12:9 [Let] love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Well this is how I see it.
With Love in Christ,
Darren
Kat:
Hi seminole,
Yes Ray is just like the rest of us :)
But God is using him to discern the scripture in an exordinary way.
Even though we will be sinners until we are born into the kingdom. Those with Christ indwelling is no longer a slave to sin, and sin no longer reigns in your life.
Rom 6:13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.
v. 14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
v. 15 What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
v. 16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?
v. 17 But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,
v. 18 and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.
v. 19 I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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