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YellowStone:
Hi Inez,

Well thank you for sharing your thoughts with us this time. :)

I agree, the words of a song only convey a message. It is the heart and the soul of a person that determines if they believe or could not care less.

What is often lost is that the truth is still the truth even if told by a known liar. Reverse this, and words of praise are still words of praise, regardless of the motive behind the one who orignally penned them.

Love to you in Christ.
Darren

Prosizz:
Kat,

When you say
 "I do not believe Christ works in the church, and when He gives us His Holy Spirit, we soon want to leave the church, because it is so contrary to God's Spirit." do you mean the building or the people? It is important to make distinction between a building and a church " congregation of believers". Therefore I am not sure you are right by stating categorically that God Spirit was not there at the time and that Mari-et-pere wife did not experience it.

So I will echo Darren quote: "As for the song service, only God can read the hearts and intent of those present. If their hearts were genuinely seeking and praising God, then perhaps God used this moment to illustrate the difference between heart felt praise and man spelled doctrine". We should avoid limiting God to what he can do or will do at a given point.

YellowStone:
Kat you wrote in response to me:

The Christian church does not have the Holy Spirit and so is carnal minded, how could their carnal hearts be "genuinely seeking and praising God" 

Kat, I am happy to say that you are saddly mistaken. :)  There are many people that I know who diligently seek God but reject almost every word of the church. Why is this? Could it be that they have enough of the Spirit to know that something is not right, but not enough to have the strength to leave. May I ask you, where did your disernment and strength come from. Surely it was by God and not something you just decided upon. Did it happen in an instant or over time? :)

You then wrote:
I do not believe Christ works in the church, and when He gives us His Holy Spirit, we soon want to leave the church, because it is so contrary to God's Spirit. But that is not saying that they do not feel inspired by the song service.  There is a lot of gifted singers in the world.  But I don't believe those that are carnal minded can praise God.

Who said anything about Christ working in the church? Christ works in the hearts of those he calls. :)

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few [are] chosen.  

I can honestly say that God was sowing seeds of his Spirit in me for years, I wandered aimlessly from church to church in the hope I could find some semblance of sanity / truth. God took perhaps a very round-about way with me in bring me to the truth. For his Spirit was well intrenched in me years before finding Bible Truths, even while still attending various churches. The hypocrisy, the blantant lies and fanciful beliefs were as clear as a smile on a baby's face. Finally, I just gave up going to church. Maybe God gave me a gentle nudge; I like to think that He waited until I grew so bored and fed up with the untruth, that I walked out myself (under his direction of course) :)

Bottom line Kat, is that when I was singing those songs. I was singing them to the God that I knew was in my heart. Not the God that they spoke of from the pulpit.

I find it kind of apalling to think that you believe that EVERY person that is in the church today has a 100% carnal mind and not a sinlge atom's worth of the Spirit of Truth. God measures his Spirit to whom he chooses in the amount he wants. :)

You then write:
The church is where Satan has his throne, maybe it's not a good idea to hang around there.

I will agree with you that it is not the place that one should habitually frequent, yet what Power has Satan got over God's own?

Rom 8:30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Rom 8:31  What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

Eph 6:13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

How is it that many whom come from the church and find BT, praise Ray to the highest, if they did not know the truth when they saw it. They knew the truth, that is why they were searching, all by the power and will of our Gracious God. :)

Love to you in the Salvation of our Christ,
Darren

rk12201960:
My Darren what big teeth you have!!!!!!!!!

Randy

YellowStone:
Moderators, If you feel that my post is to harsh, and / or deceitful please delete it :)

Love to you all in Christ
Darren

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