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jER:
WELCOME ZADE...

A friend in Christ - jER

skydreamers:
Hi Guys,

I was in a hurry when I wrote my post and so what I was trying to show didn't come across clearly. 

Jer,
You indeed picked up on what I was trying to say :)  Thanks for the help in clarifying.


--- Quote ---As far as it sounded, Diane could have been making a reference to those who "overcome?" And, not of self determination, either.
--- End quote ---


Rodger and Beloved,

You are so right and of course I agree with you; according to the world, the Elect will seem as nothing and nobodies.

For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, so that no human being might boast in the presence of God.
1 Corinthians 1:26-29

I certainly don't think that the Elect are necessarily any better than anybody else.  But as I understand it, the Elect are being brought through a process of purification right now.  So how I was thinking about it was that they are the first of their kind to reach perfection in Christ, thus the honor bestowed on them to be Kings and Priests with Christ. 

But you are right, it doesn't mean they are "best" in and of themselves, for it is God who makes it possible for them to be the Elect in the first place, as you so rightly pointed out that He is the one doing the choosing.  Plus, I truly understand that it is nothing in us that is "best" but it is Christ living his righteousness in and through us.

I hope that clears up a little what I meant.  Sorry for the confusion.:) ;) 

Peace,
Diana

Beloved:
My remarks were not meant as a negative against Diana in any way  I thought I was sharpening her point.  Oh Diana I know what you mean I am sometimes in such a hurry to write a responce before I accidently delete my own mesaage that I do not always make the point I want to make. I especially have to watch because I have such a blunt way of expressing myself.
 
I am really trying to understand the nuances of the language we use in expressing our beliefs  and agree with Roger's intent that we also need to be scripturally accurate now that we are more aware of doctrinal twists that can occur.

We have so many people here on the forum who are at different levels of their walk that we need to be careful that we are tender toward others as we gently push for clarification and scripturally sound responces. I personally love scriptural sword fights because Truth is always the Victor.  I do not know how some of you out there come up with such in depth anaylsis some times. Kudos I can barely cut and paste a few verses . 

Beloved     

jER:
Rodger

"I sincerely appreciate your directness and humbleness."

Your request is very easy to understand and I concur with that of reading the material/articles written by Ray, prior - if one has not taken the time!

Furthermore, I keep in mind that:

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A friend in Christ!

- jER

Deborah-Leigh:


Hello Falconn300

Now you know how I feel about your dazzling return and much needed contribution in the Forum!

With a little sense of humour I can observe the following....IF EVERYONE DID read and integrate Rays teachings and then only come to the Forum to ask questions AFTER having read Rays teachings.....either there'd be no Forum! ...Or the Forum  would not be at times such a hard training ground for discernment and exercise of the spirit in matters of the truth and sound doctrine! :D Hence endurance is sometimes the fruit of the Spirit that is being fashioned into my spirit along side with patience sometimes which I do not have much of!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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