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Kat:
Hi Diana,
That was interesting. I'm seeing this word 'friend' has more implications than I knew.
The whole thing with John the Baptist is hard to comprehend, but he died before the sacrifice was offered. Maybe Christ had shared an understanding with him, so he knew God's plan, they were cousins.
Though he will not be in the first resurrection, I believe he will enter the kingdom quickly. And He will no doubt hold a position of honor, though he will not reign and rule with the saints.
I believe chapter 22 of Revelation, is wonderful. It tells of the City, which I believe is symbolic of the kingdom.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
Is this not speaking of those that are being brought into the kingdom, during Christ's reign. As you memtioned there are those not yet purged still outside of the kingdom.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
But they too will enter, the invitation from Christ and the bride is to all.
Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
DuluthGA:
Hi Kat,
Paraphrasing you (sorry I apparently cannot work the quote button):
'... some good people in the church ... I don't think they are enemies of Christ BUT they must still go through the LOF is what I think.'
How is it that you have come to discern this concept of who will and who will not be in the LOF?
I've usually left this one up to Him, especially given:
John 5: 21 For even as the Father is rousing the dead and vivifying, thus the Son also is vivifying whom He will.
Appreciate your input on this intriguing matter!
With His joy, Janice
Kat:
It's clear all must go through judgment.
Heb 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
For the few God has predestinated to be faithful, those are judged now in this life, that they will be prepared to rule when Christ returns.
1Cor 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves (now), we would not be judged (later in the Lake of fire).
v. 32 But when we are judged (now), we are chastened by the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world (later).
1Peter 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
Rev 19:11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
When Christ returns He will judge all people, this will be the white throne judgment, this is the Lake of fire. The rod of iron that He rules with, will purge and cleanse people and the world will be brought to righteousness.
Mat 25:32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides His sheep from the goats.
v. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
v. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
v. 41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, "Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
v. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death
v. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Isa 11:4 but with righteousness He shall judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips he shall slay the wicked.
Rev 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Isa 45:22 "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.
v. 23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: 'To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.'
Phi 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted Him and bestowed on Him the Name that is above every name,
v. 10 so that at the Name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
v. 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Janice
Common questions that come from Christiandom/Mystery Babylon are a) when did you accept the Lord? b) when did you get saved? c) when did you get born again?
All of those questions are born out of heresy, blasphemy, ignorance, and great deception. The false prophet that teaches these things will be cast into the LOF. Those who believe lies believe also the liar who was a murderer also from the beginning.
Those who hear the truth are called. Those who will die for it are chosen.
Like Judas, we may walk with Jesus, talk with Jesus, walk the walk and talk the talk but we do not know if we are elect or chosen until tested. Everyone will be tested. Some sooner than later.
From the LOF series I have come to understand that testing is judgement and this is happening on the house of God now. Many Christians may think they are doing just fine or that they are saved now. They are far from the truth.
I believe that to work out our salvation in fear and trembling becomes a reality by observing what we think, feel and do. This is what will ultimately be made known before the King of Kings and we will be accountable for it and will be judged for how we live both in our hearts and minds.
We know for sure that those who follow after false teachings and blind guides will be corrected. We also know that Mystery Babylon is not only a false guide, but is a lying deceiving hypocrite who seduces a following by providing the Heroine of heresy and the Opium of body life and a sentimental feeling of belonging to a hurting and lost majority. At some point for a few, the truth is heard. Thereafter we have to get to the point where we will die for it and not ignore, deny or resist it. Only those who do,and die doing so, have any hope to be in the first Resurrection.
This might sound harsh but it is not meant to at all. If anything I would hope that it simply points out that no one knows if anyone is elect or chosen while they are still alive and what Jesus said He means....Many ARE called...few are chosen.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
DuluthGA:
I think you hit the nail on the head Arcturus: "No one knows if anyone is elect or chosen while they are still alive..." and I think it would be presumptuous to think otherwise.
Thanks, :) Janice
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