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MORE ON THE IMMORTAL SOUL
DuluthGA:
Hi Dean,
Here are more verses for you in addition to the ones already given. It's become my practice to compile theme papers of verses that relate to whatever subjects I'm interested in. It's easy to copy and paste them from online bibles. As I find a verse that pertains to one of the many theme papers I've got going, I add it to the list. Over time they really start to add up.
These verses refer to death as being like sleep/rest or actually being dead.
Here are some verses from the O.T.
Eccl 3:2, Psa 13: 3, Job 17: 13-16, Gen 2: 7 Eccl 12: 7 [Note: Man, the living soul, is dead], Job 34: 15, Eccl 8: 8a, Dan 12: 2 [Beware the word everlasting], Dan 12: 13, Ezek 18: 4, 20, Josh 1: 1-2 [Our Lord said he was dead], Job 7: 9-10, Eccl 9: 5-6,10, Psa 146: 4, Job 14: 12-14, 21, Psa 89: 48, Psa 6: 5, Psa 17: 15,Isa 38: 18, 2Chron 33: 20, Eccl 3: 18-19.
Here are some verses from the N.T.
John 11: 25-26, 1Tim 6: 15-16, Acts 13: 36-37, Eph 5: 14, John 8: 51-52 [Implied: The 2nd death], 2Cor 4: 14, Acts 2: 29, 34, 1Thes 5: 10, Luke 8: 52-53, Acts 7: 59-60, 1Thes 4: 13-16, 1Cor 15: 5-6, 12-18, 20-23, 29-32, 35, 42-44a, 1Cor 11: 30, 1Cor 7: 39, Matt 27: 50-53 [Some people were raised from the dead back to physical life when Jesus died. Without any doubt, they died (again) later in their lives.]
If you should take the time to copy and paste them then print them out, you will have great evidence that when you die, you really are dead. ;)
By the way there more verses than listed here.
Wishing you the best, Janice :)
Dean Peterman:
Dear Janice,
Thank you for the verses. I will definitely look them up. I am very close to being 100% convinced of this. I did read Ray's article before starting this post. In fact, he personally e-mailed me and told me where to read. However, I needed a little extra boost so to speak to help me get over the last few hurdles. I find that the insights of other people can often be a great help. Sometimes they can phrase something in just the right way that helps me to see a particular truth more clearly. These types of discussions can put the moderators in a difficult situation because the forum is dedicated to discussing Ray's articles. There is a legitimate concern that people can inadvertently teach falsehood when they act in the role of a teacher. I do understand the moderators viewpoint on this and agree with them that it is reasonable to ask people to abide by these rules. The difficulty is knowing exactly when we are crossing the line and going off on a tangent of our own. I don't want to mislead anyone by making it seem that I agree with everything Ray teaches but I do have the obligation and duty to abide by the rules. I have done my best to do this. I have learned a lot from Ray and hope to continue learning more. Thanks again for providing me with so many verses to look up.
Sincerely,
Dean
chuckt:
EDIT.................
Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
God says ,Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die
all have sinned and come short.
hows that?
Jackie Lee:
Hi Rodger thanks for the response, I do read Ray's teaching daily and also read the words of Jesus.
What I was and am saying is when someone asks a question or needs an answer we have to respond with a little kindness.
Dean said you had it worked out between you so I am fine with that.
I really like the way Kat responds always firm but seldom harsh.
She gets her point across very well.
I am not here to cause division so how you respond from now on is between you and God.
Falconn003:
Jackie lee
well said........what can i say ...it's me ;)
Rodger
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