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mrsnacks:
But aren't we called to fight and war against evil ? But to what extent ?  Are Christians called to fight immorality by aligning themselves with organizations such as Operation Rescue or let's say Civil Rights organizations ?

I would say no. Because only Christ can transform and change the person from the inside out. I cannot change the person from practicing homosexuality or from being pro abortion to a person with Christian values. I think if a person is brought to Christ and begins to have Christ living in him/her- then and only then will he/ she change from ungodliness to being Christlike. It is a process but there is no other way. Any other change is at a superficial level.

mari_et_pere:
Hey Snacks, I used to think of the same questions you brought up here. I think there's plenty of people who will go fight wars. I don't have to get involved (and wouldn't anyway) I think you're right, and yet who's ultimately responsible for the wars? U.S.? Saddam? Japan? Hitler? God?

Me thinks the latter.

Matt

ciy:
The battle is never ours.  It is the Lord's.  We are not to trust in man or the arm of flesh or the work of our hands.  We are to put all of our trust in the Lord.  If God had meant for Germany to conquer the world the Allied forces could have been 10 times larger and more powerful than they were and we would still have lost the war.

All is of God. And it will not be accomplished in this age, but the peace of God will reign over all of creation in time. 

We can have peace within ourselves by dying to Christ and putting all of our trust in God.

CIY

Extol:
I think Gandhi had a much better idea what it means to "Resist not evil" (Matthew 5:39) and "overcome evil with good" (Romans 12:17) than most Christians do:

"I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions.... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

Gandhi, Mahatma (1972). Non-violence in peace and war, 1942–[1949]. Garland Pub. ISBN 0-8240-0375-6.

Craig:

--- Quote ---I think if a person is brought to Christ and begins to have Christ living in him/her- then and only then will he/ she change from ungodliness to being Christlike. It is a process but there is no other way. Any other change is at a superficial level.
--- End quote ---

Bravo, Snack you nailed that.

Remember Christ said live by the sword and die by the sword.

You can never forcefully change anyones opinion by beating it into them.  Or threatening them (hell), they are just the same old filthy rags.  On the outside they may agree with you and want to be "one of the guys" but inside they are the same ole beast.

Craig

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