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SteveB:

--- Quote ---Marijuana is an herb and I myself use to use it and it has not been that long ago since I quit smoking it!! The Lord let me know that it just was not a good witness for Him, not to mention I was loosing my memory and how stupid it would make me at times, and how damaging it was to my lungs!!!
Cigarettes are my thing right now and let me tell you that is the hardest thing right now for me to give up!!! My wife and son are on me all the time to quit but if you have ever smoked that is one of the hardest things to do!! PRAY FOR ME!!!!
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Marijuana is the MOST sinister drug ever! I know I was stoned from morning til night for YEARS. Running from the  guilt of my sin. Its very 'pleasurable'...for a time. But it was a curse when i look back on that time.

I have very bad back problems and sometimes I need medication. The pain killers are very bad as to addictions as well. I have to fight everytime I HAVE to take them.

Cigarettes are HARD TO GIVE UP. I never smoked tabacco, in fact i hated it.  I was listening to a guy on the radio today and he said 'you know cigs are addicting when the first time you smoke you hate it but still keep smoking'. At least with marijuana you get 'pleasure'  of it. Cigs are just a waste to me.  

I'll pray you get victory of over this Bobby.

Peace...Steve

Laren:

--- Quote from: Laren ---And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit (Eph. 5:18 )

For me, this a deeper truth than just being physically drunk with wine, although I agree that being drunk is a sin.  

For me it is about old versus new; law versus grace, death versus life, night versus day, dark versus light etc.  

We can not serve two masters or mix the two.
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Isaiah 28:3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:

1Thes 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

1Thes 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

longhorn:
The lengths we will go to find "APPROVAL" for our addictions is truely amazing.

Love in Christ
Longhorn  8)

hillsbororiver:
I believe this is one verse which gives us a key to understanding this issue, a fondness for good food can lead to gluttony as can a healthy respect for money turn into greed, if we are not temperate in all things then even things that are not evil in and of themselves can be transformed into sin by intemperence.

1Co 9:25  And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

Psa 104:15  And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil, to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

Pro 3:10  So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

Pro 9:5  Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled.

Ecc 9:7  Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.

Apparently Jesus did not only condone wine but supplied it!
 And not only turning the water into wine but He made it "Top Shelf" wine. An old bartender's trick is to serve the first few drinks with the "good stuff"
but once the customer becomes, let's say less discerning, he will switch to a call brand but still charge full price. Here it is written that the bridegroom got points for saving the best wine for last. So apparently this practice of substitution was around for quite some time.

 Joh 2:3  And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

 Joh 2:9  When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine and knew not whence it was:(but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
 Joh 2:10  And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

I doubt Paul would advise wine if it were a sin.

 1Ti 5:23  Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

But again, we must be temperate,

Isa 5:11  Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!

Kevin:
I to used drugs on a regular basis. I smoked more pot than gehenna had smoke coming from it. But just like the fire in gehenna  stopped, I stopped. I would stay stoned from morning till night. I also drank alot. Went to jail 3 times because of it. The 4th time got sent away for 6.5 months for my nasty habits. The first night out, drunk and stoned out of my mind. God delivered me from these addictions. Right now the way I see it theres nothing wrong with having 1or 2, if you can stop there.

Has anything good ever  come from it?

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