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Sorin:
Joe,

Thanks for your post, I will just simply say that I can not agree with you more. that's exactly how I see it as well. it's not the drinking of the alcohol in and of it's self that's sinful, but rather the abuse of it. just like over eating, food's not sinful, but over eating it, is.

Those are my two cents I guess,

Sorin

ertsky:
Hi All

i just wanted to say a big AMEN to Joes post

temperate in all things

then we won't hear the thing we should never hear

i.. i ... i  luuuuuuv youse jeeeeeshush hic!

:)

orion77:
Smoking, drinking and drugs...very opinionated subjects, no doubt.  I will admit, I smoke cigarettes and drink beer time to time, sometimes too much beer.  That's my problem...if God has a problem with it, He'll fix it, in His own due time.  I think noone can cast the first stone at any kind of sin, no matter the least to the greatest.  We have not earned that right.

Where I live its is all about sin and hellfire preached.  I know many, many people who go to church their whole life and try with all their might to live righteous lives.  But, wow the selfrighteous and judgmental minds they have absolutely amaze me.  I believe the sin itself is bad, but the casting of stones from other sinners is TEN times worse.  

Jesus showed this many times during His ministry.  I'll be honest here and say I have sat around and drank a few beers with friends and a conversation about God is brought up...those have been the most deepest and honest talks I have ever had with fellow humans than at any other time.  It's no wonder Jesus spent so much time with publicans and sinners!

I just got through working all day and right now I am drinking an ice cold beer.  Sure hope I don't get kicked out for saying the truth,  :lol: .  I am not perfect and I will not be like the hypocrites who act like they are.  8)

I am telling the truth, but don't take me serious, please.  We can have a little bit of fun, can't we?

God bless,

Gary

hillsbororiver:
Gary, I have had the same type of experience, sitting with friends or family having a few beers or wine and the subject of Jesus comes up, normally these same people would not be receptive or put up a defensive posture, but in this relaxed environment I have experienced some of the
best and most fulfilling conversations about Him and His real purpose for humanity, with others this would never work. It is all about discernment and temperence. Let's not look too hard for burdons and heavy yokes.


Mat 11:18  For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
Mat 11:19  The Son of man came eating and drinking and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

Luk 5:30  But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?

Luk 12:29  And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

Joe

hillsbororiver:
P.S. Thanks for the very kind comments.

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