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ertsky:
yeah exactly
who in this thread is trying to "justify" anything?
it's our liberty that is dangerous not our bondage
and who brought pre-marital sex into all this ? the topic is "Alcohol" and the OP is "is drinking a sin" not "is pre marital sex a sin" or "is drunkeness a sin"
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gmik:
Isn't it what comes out of a man that defiles and not what goes in? Anyway, this is very interesting. Moderation to me is the key. As Jesus increases in us, and we decrease I would think the love for the things of the world lessen. Of course, a glass of wine or beer is nothing -lets not go back into legalism-. I love to read Chrissie, and Joe's posts as they use scripture so well.
Becky:
Romans 14 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
Romans 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
Footnotes:
Romans 14:11 Isaiah 45:23
Romans 14:14 Or that nothing
Becky:
I thought this whole chapter was perfect. I was having these questions when out for a social event with family who believed all drinking was sin. I had to decide what I would drink in their company since I felt a beer was ok. I ended up drinking a beer anyway, but now i think becuase they thought it was wrong i should have had a coke.
Becky
orion77:
Becky, thank you for posting. Those are the perfect verses for this thread. God bless your heart.
Sincerely,
Gary
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