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Herbert Armstrong
musicman:
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No, I had no clue about the WWC of G until I came to this forum. Seriously. lol
I had no idea there were people out there preaching "Annihilation" instead of "Eternal Torture", which is infinitely more merciful than what I was taught in my parents' stupid Pentecostal church/religion. But, it is still wrong and unscriptural.
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I remember watching Haggee preach on TBN and later that night, begging God to reveal the truth to me. I wanted to believe that the unrighteous would be annihilated rather than tortured for all eternity. Boy, what a revelation it was when I came to Ray's "Exposing those who contradict" articles. This, by the way, happened about an hour after my pleading with God for the truth. How selfish I must have been for wanting the majority of the world to be annihilated. I had no idea that Christ was the Savior of the world. Forgive me lord.
Brett:
Hi,
I'm not sure what is all about. Is that something you guys know/met Diane from conference or something? If so, then maybe I understand what is all about. But if this is not, then wouldn't you mind to explain briefly of what is about?
I'm not always very good understand reading. :-[
Brett
Sorin:
--- Quote from: musicman ---I remember watching Haggee preach on TBN and later that night, begging God to reveal the truth to me. I wanted to believe that the unrighteous would be annihilated rather than tortured for all eternity. Boy, what a revelation it was when I came to Ray's "Exposing those who contradict" articles. This, by the way, happened about an hour after my pleading with God for the truth. How selfish I must have been for wanting the majority of the world to be annihilated. I had no idea that Christ was the Savior of the world. Forgive me lord.
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Don't be so hard on yourself, at least by wanting annihilation for the unrighteous instead of eternal torture you were being merciful unlike
those Christians like Hagee who love the idea of eternal torture. So I don't think you were being selfish, like me, you just didn't know, think, or believe that all could be saved because we were taught otherwise. We were deceived. And this all happened about an hour after pleading with God for the truth? That's awesome! Talk about an answered prayer, aye? ;)
Me, I just was bothered by the whole "hell" thing, and since even after (supposedly) being born again, and after the so called sinners prayer I just couldn't stop sinning (maybe for a while, but then go back to sinning again) so I thought that I was headed there myself.
I thought that I had commited the "unforgivable sin" because I thought I had already been "enlightened" and had "tasted of the heavenly gift" {Hbr 6:4-6}. I did a Google search on the word "hell" and up pops bible-truths.com. And I was just amazed at what I was reading.
I couldn't understand how Hagee and Kennedy could still believe in "hell" after those letters Ray wrote to them. But then (after reading more on Ray's site) I finally understood what Jesus meant by "those who have eyes.... those who have ears.."
-Sorin
DuluthGA:
Thanks M.G., I relate to your sense of fullness from Ray's insights, in that the big questions were finally covered in a reliable and easily independently researchable way. [Oh yes I still have little piddly questions about certain Scriptures, but no big deal.]
And Beloved... HOOT!!!
I had started reading the Restored Church of God's website and had done so for about a month and a half at the beginning of 2006. [Bored in the dead of winter.] This was all brand new to me and rather interesting. One day when trying to go back to that site, I somehow wound up on BT, and I just don't know how it happened. I will praise God for it the rest of my life!!!
Joyfully, Janice :)
carol70:
It is so amazing to hear of everyone's experience in being led to the truth.
My experience was a bit different, in that I don't have a very strong religious or church background. I went to Sunday school and vacation bible school growing up, told my mom I was done with church at 17, prayed over the years and felt God was out there to grant wishes, like a giant invisible genie. In my late 20s I realized something was wrong with my life but didn't know what. Then I got married. God said "Gotcha!" and locked the doors on my life. He then proceeded to bombard me with one fiery trial after another.
1 Peter 4
12 Beloved, do not be astonished at the fiery trial which is to try you, as though a strange thing happened to you,
13 but rejoice according as you are partakers of Christ's suffering, so that when His glory shall be revealed, you may be glad also with exceeding joy.
It was EXACTLY like that. That's how it happened. It got to the point where I would look around at other people's lives and wondered what the heck I did to deserve all that I was going through. Through each trial, God dragged me closer and closer to him. I started asking questions, decided to "find my faith", joined a church, started reading the bible, and began listening to sermons from anyone and everyone I could find. But it got to the point where I started to realize that there was something I was missing, something unknown to me. Finally I cried out, "Ok God, what is it that I'm missing??? What are you trying to tell me?" ??? Within a few days he led me to bible-truths.com. :)
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