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Herbert Armstrong
Dean Peterman:
Dear Brett,
I am responsible for this one. I found a website with an article written by this guy Armstrong. I thought he had some good insights on a question I had so I mentioned this in a post. At that time I really didn't know much about him. I thought no one else did either. I think the web master wanted me and everyone else to be aware of some of the problems with Mr. Armstrong. I'm glad I was warned and informed about Mr. Armstrongs character. I don't want to read material by anyone that has so many problems controlling their own behavior. Although Mr. Armstrongs teachings are very similar to Ray's I would never trust Mr. Armstrong but I do trust Ray. To me living the life is the most important thing.
I have to admit that I was disappointed to find out that Mr. Armstrong had these problems. I wish I knew how someone can have so much truth but yet not live up to the very things they are teaching. The heart is so deceitful. How can someone have such deep insights and live so badly. I just don't get it. I can see why Ray left that church.
Sorry to have even brought all of this up in the first place. Although I was probably helped more than anyone else by the information posted by the webmaster on Mr. Armstrong.
Sincerely,
Dean
Deborah-Leigh:
MG you say you came to the point where you said to God : "I've tried everything and it didn't work".
I too came to that point but I said : God. I give up. If you don't show up then the next step I take is over into the Abyss of believing you don't exist! In my thoughts a frame of words arose to say to me "By what you choose so you are known"...I thought that was just my mind playing tricks on me. I thought, knowing already how cruel my mind can be towards me...next I saw a line up in my minds eye of THOUSANDS of people. From my vantage point I could only see their heads and there was a grey shadow that made them appear all the same. They were on their way to meet Christ. I could not see Christ but knew what the crowds were moving towards. Who did I believe from all my studies of worldly minds trying to present Gods wisdom and sacred secrets! :D..How could I explain that I had left Christ? I couldn't! I cried and knew the chastisement of repentance then and there. Not born again in some sleazy fleecy fuzzy feel good feeling!
I was then for three years, to join a sleazy fleecy fuzzy feel good Pentecostal Church that booted me out after three years!
God has been so patient, kind, and good to me! I was new to Bible-Truths. I reported my agony in a Forum Thread. I have not been back and have moved away, separated from their counterfeit love and genuine hypocrisy! I am so grateful to Jesus and this site!
Carol....unlike you...I did not realise anything was wrong!....I did cry when I was in the Catholic Church on the Podium next to the Priest though....My spirit knew why but I was clueless! :D My stint in ten years of clinical depression I believe was the consequence of the religious efforts of deceit and deception to bury me alive! By Gods grace and mercy my depression is far behind me and I am now out of Mystery Babylon that whore of death, prostitute of deception and peddler of false promises and broken lives.
Eph 6 : 12 For we are not wrestling with flesh and blood, contending only with physical opponents, but against the despotisms, against the powers, against the master spirits who are the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in the heavenly sphere.
I know small part of this battle ground and whether it is the World Wide Church, Catholicism or Pentecostal, or any other form of Christian religious spirit....Satan has his Throne right there! I am glad I am no longer on Satans turf. ;D
Dean you say : Although Mr. Armstrongs teachings are very similar to Ray's The Tare LOOKS like the Wheat but it is not the wheat! :D :D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Brett:
--- Quote from: Dean Peterman on July 08, 2007, 07:08:15 AM ---Dear Brett,
I am responsible for this one. I found a website with an article written by this guy Armstrong. I thought he had some good insights on a question I had so I mentioned this in a post. At that time I really didn't know much about him. I thought no one else did either. I think the web master wanted me and everyone else to be aware of some of the problems with Mr. Armstrong. I'm glad I was warned and informed about Mr. Armstrongs character. I don't want to read material by anyone that has so many problems controlling their own behavior. Although Mr. Armstrongs teachings are very similar to Ray's I would never trust Mr. Armstrong but I do trust Ray. To me living the life is the most important thing.
I have to admit that I was disappointed to find out that Mr. Armstrong had these problems. I wish I knew how someone can have so much truth but yet not live up to the very things they are teaching. The heart is so deceitful. How can someone have such deep insights and live so badly. I just don't get it. I can see why Ray left that church.
Sorry to have even brought all of this up in the first place. Although I was probably helped more than anyone else by the information posted by the webmaster on Mr. Armstrong.
Sincerely,
Dean
--- End quote ---
Thank you, Dean. No big deal. I understand you. ;)
Brett :D
Robin:
When I was searching for others I would listen to everything on TV and the radio to see if I could find someone else. I would hear something and say it sounds like they know. I would drive over and find out that they were also teaching lies. The more we learn the truth the more we are separated from everything else and not easily deceived by the cunning and craftiness of men. I was lonely and I searched very hard and found no one until I found Ray and the members of this forum. If I had seen just one thing that wasn't truth I would have run from this place. I actually tried because I was so cautious. I couldn't find anything. There were some stumbling blocks I had that kept me from accepting everything immediately, but Ray is so thorough that he answered every question I had in his papers.
Ephesians 4:13-15
13until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
hillsbororiver:
Bless you M.G. I always look forward to hearing your take on a given matter,
His Peace to you Sister,
Joe
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