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Repentance in transcript (angels)
skydreamers:
Hi Brett, I think I understand your confusion. As I have thus far understood it, the word "angels" can either be taken to mean "spirit messengers" OR "human messengers". So the problem is trying to determine which is being referred to in which scripture?
Satan and the demons could be the "sinning angels" since Satan sins, and so logically so do the demons.
1 John 3:8
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning.
So those who follow the workings of Satan, whether human OR spirit, are those the Lake of Fire is prepared for:
Matthew 25:41
Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels...
1 Timothy 3:6
He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.
It is in the Lake of Fire (which is made up of the Elect) that the angels (human or spirit) will be judged. It looks like messengers of Satan includes humans who are teaching the doctrines of devils:
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
So the question is, can demons and Satan really be referred to as true angels? I haven't yet found a scripture that connects the two...Satan (and perhaps the demons) can disguise themselves as "angels" but that doesn't mean they are angels. We know they are referred to as "evil spirits" and are dispatched or sent from the Lord....so I guess that could make them messengers....
1 Samuel 19:9
And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul
1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore behold, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets
Maybe it's not super important to try and make the distinction, but it is interesting that it is a teaching of orthodox churches that Satan and his demons were once angels who sinned and so are fallen. Perhaps they are not, nor ever have been "angels".
Hope this doesn't confuse you even more... :-\ ???
Peace,
Diana
Redbird:
Thank you Kat, for the link. :)
Peace to you, Lisa
gmik:
Notice date.
Ihad originally printed out the 32 pages.
Today, I printed out 32 pages!! Wentto file them and there ws the first one!!! Oh well! ::) ;D
Its all good.
Redbird:
Well Gena,
Maybe you know a brother you can give the extra copy to. ;) ;D
Peace, Lisa
Brett:
Hello,
Are some of you deaf because you cannot hear the audio of "Repentance"???? Just silly joke! ;D ;D
Hi Carol, thank for the scriptures. But let me ask you, you said, "So angels are spirits on a divine mission, but apparently they can sin, so they too will face judgment" (bolds & underlines are mine). So are you saying that God created perfect & good angels and then later they fall away from God and follow Satan, angels are now 'bad' like angels 'can' choose sin? Is that what you said? If so, there are no scriptures about that. God never created Satan as 'perfect' and 'good' angel befire he turned away and sin against God. No, God created Satan to be 'Satan', the bad one. As well as God created two different angels, one are 'good' and other are 'bad'. Is that make sense? Ray did write about "SATAN AND THE ANGELS DID NOT HAVE “FREE-WILL” in "Lake of Fire Series" in The Myth of "Free Will" Exposed - Part C
http://bible-truths.com/lake15-C.html
Yet, I am appreciate for your trying to help me :).
Brett :D
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