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A question derived from one of ray's papers.
Falconn003:
I was raised up catholic, and came across many, many superstitions. The ever popular healer man of latin lore.
visions, images of Jesus, voices,..ect ..........by the truck load
And not one of them ever came through on thier words. More of a traditional SCAM for easy cash, then boooooooooo power of principalities of darkness.
To sum it all it, WHAT A JOKE !
peace and understanding
Rodger
Sorin:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 ---Hey !! Did you hear about the one were 2 penguins were vacationing in the Bahamas.....?
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No, actually I haven't. But perhaps you'll be kind enough to tell it to us. ;)
DuluthGA:
Rodger, PLEASE TELL ME what happened to those bloomin' penguins? ???
It doesn't matter to me what it/they/their manifestations are called, "EVIL", demons, "good teachers", familiar spirits... these concept/entities simply do not exist without God. We all know this, right??
Arcturus, from Splinter in the Flesh, the bottom line is that whatever it was, God gave it to him to keep him humble. [e.g., lots of physical problems.] From P. 6:
Only Paul actually experienced "transcendency" in this life. Because of the privilege presented to Paul, God must now humble him and bring him back down to earth.
Darren, bless your heart, you are a piece of something sweet, but methinks you are wrapped just a little bit too tight on this one. Rodger's use of the terms "idiots" and "fools" are calling them just the way God has and is playing them. IT'S FUNNY!! ;D
With joy, Janice
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Janice
You write:Arcturus, from Splinter in the Flesh, the bottom line is that whatever it was, God gave it to him to keep him humble. [e.g., lots of physical problems.] From P. 6:
Only Paul actually experienced "transcendency" in this life. Because of the privilege presented to Paul, God must now humble him and bring him back down to earth.
Janice, the "splinter in the flesh" was a creature not physical problems and that creature was a messenger of Satan that struck Paul "in blows inordinately." 2 Cor 11:23 That is not to say that Pauls TRIALS and physical disabilities were not sent to humble him but the creature messenger was sent to keep him grounded, balanced and for this God sent him to buffet Paul "inordinately.
This might mean that the messenger of Satan is sent to those who experience transcendence of Christ and physical trials are sent only to HUMILIATE and HUMBLE those who have not yet experienced TRANSCENDENCE?
Ray observes : Remember, Paul’s revelations were transcendent. It is, therefore, necessary that his humiliation must be in accord with his exaltation. Is there a negative word that answers, in kind, to the word "transcendence"? Yes. It’s the word "inordinately"!
Let’s first look at the positive: Webster’s, transcend, 1. To go beyond the limits of; exceed 2. To surpass; excel. This is the positive side of [h]uperbole.
Now the negative: I like Webster’s New World Student’s Dictionary: inordinate, adj. too many or too much; excessive.
http://bible-truths.com/splinter.html
Good to see you back....from where? ...Joyful1 !
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
DuluthGA:
Dear Arcturus,
NO, there are no creatures/entities/ghosts/spirits/familiars, etc., WHATEVER LABEL we can give them. It IS ALL THE SPIRIT OF EVIL GIVEN BY GOD to Satan as His tool, or... Okay, God through Satan or disease or through His natural processes (aging) CAUSED Paul to be PHYSICALLY humbled. Please confirm to me that you don't think A CREATURE or a FAMILIAR SPIRIT is involved. Surely at this late hour I am misunderstanding you. Perhaps I am enlightening you.
Your second paragraph in blue has TOTALLY THROWN me in that I have no idea of what you are trying to say, and I have reread it a few times. Honest, you lost me on this one, sorry.
Well of course Paul was 'inordinately' balanced-out by God in receiving the "splinter" because of his God-given spiritual vision. Can I hear the choir sing... "God HAD to humble Paul!!" He HAD to humble him because of the GLORY he was given to see... that awaits!
Too bad about this little tizz, ain't nothin' but a tizz... Always appreciate your scholarship otherwise.
With joy, Janice
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