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How'd THEY do it??
Deborah-Leigh:
Proverbs 15:10 There is severe discipline for him who forsakes God's way; and he who hates reproof will die physically, morally and spiritually. 12 A scorner has no love for one who rebukes him; neither will he go to the wise for counsel.
Proverbs 1:5 The wise also will hear and increase in learning, and the person of understanding will acquire skill and attain to sound counsel, so that he may be able to steer his course rightly.
Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you.
Which is it Pax? (Rhetorical question! :D ;D)
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Dean Peterman:
Dear Pax,
I understand your perspective but I think you are understating the case. Ehrman does not merely disagree with your theology. He thinks what you believe it totally false. Do the below statements sound like a disagreement over theology.
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Sometimes Christian apologists say there are only three options to who Jesus was: a liar, a lunatic or the Lord," he tells a packed auditorium here at the University of North Carolina, where he chairs the department of religious studies. But there could be a fourth option --legend.
Ehrman slowly came to a horrifying realization: There was no real historical record. It was, he felt, all incense and myth, told by illiterate men
I just began to lose it," Ehrman says now, in a conversation that stretches from late afternoon into the evening. It wasn't for lack of trying. But I just couldn't believe there was a God in charge of this mess.
He thinks that when you die, there are no Pearly Gates. I think you just cease to exist, like the mosquito you swatted yesterday.
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Pax, my brother, Ehrman is an atheist, does not believe that Jesus ever existed and that the New Testament was written by illiterate men. This is more than a dispute over theology.
Sincerely,
Dean
Pax Vobiscum:
Ok OK OK OK!
Arcturus, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Dean, I can certainly learn from a person who does not share my theology. For instance, Ray and I differ on some core issues, but I learn something from him each time I read one of his theses. Actually, if our experience of God is individual, can anyone really share a theology? Alas, that is another thread entirely. As a historian of Ancient Christianity, my brother Bart Ehrman has taught me much. He is as much my brother as you. And even though you and I may have competing theologies, I would dare not say that I could not learn anything from you -- particularly if you were an expert in field.
I do not require that any of the authors I read share my rather unorthodox worldview. I am adept at discernment and my God can certainly withstand a little scrutiny. God doesn't need any help to handle agnostics, atheists or zealots. To throw the historian out with the bath water is too narrow for me and I believe that I would be less of a child of the Almighty if I were to only learn from those who share my view on matters not at hand.
Let's call it a day, OK?
Peace
rk12201960:
Hi guys,
My thoughts.
God does not need flesh to teach anyone. The flesh that had the right to teach is now spirit.
We learn in spirit. Do not put your trust in man or his ways. what about Ray? He is led by Gods spirit otherwise I wouldn't be here.
Its an idol.
Randy
GODSown1:
Amen! Randy,
I reckon so 2 GODBLESS!.
muchLOVE!! Pera
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