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What Do The Denominations Have Right?
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on August 03, 2007, 07:07:52 AM ---Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the great responses!
Darren, in regard to your question "In the Beginning God created...."
That is Genesis 1:1, sure they quote some scriptures but even in this they misinterpret it, most teach Jehovah created everything but do not teach that Jehovah is Jesus Christ they teach God the Father is Jehovah.
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
The following verses are also quoted, but do they really teach it properly or believe it?
Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Hi Joe, I agree with you in what they teach is not always what they know. I used this particular reference because during my time as a Presbyterian Bible study we were studying Colossians, and came across Col 1:16
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
There was no skirting around this one, that Christ was in fact God and was the God talked about in Genesis. But of course they never made the connection. For that matter neither did I until I read Ray's paper and immediately seen the truth for what it was. Is some truth better than no truth. Sometimes the answer appears to be yes. God does indeed work according to his understanding and not ours.
Love to you Christ,
Darren
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Prosizz on August 03, 2007, 01:01:56 PM ---
May be attending babylon before discovering the truth and being called out of her is a necessary step of suffering in order to learn obedience.
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Absolutely true!
But when we are called out and see it for what it is, we must stay out, this is not an ambiguous statement;
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Luk 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Prosizz on August 03, 2007, 01:01:56 PM ---
Therefore there must be some truths dispense there. In my personal experience, I have been thoughts some truths while attending Church that Ray have confirmed.
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Hi Prosizz,
Please do not think this is nitpicking but what exactly are these truths you speak of?
His Peace to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Hi Everyone,
I have to be honest here and say I thought this would be a more vibrant topic, oh well.....
Anyone want to comment on what the churches might say about these verses in light of the fact they (mainstream christianity) teaches man was created perfect?
Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Bradigans:
I have a question based on the question. Who is Christ. Paul the apostle said in 1 Corinthians 1:13 - Is Christ divided? I don't think so. He said in1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body.I believe the true church is an invisible body comprised of lively stones (1 Peter 2:5) connected through the Holy Ghost. As lively stones, we don't have a denomination, we have a head. Colossians 1:18 - And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. This is why we don't fit into Babylon. Christ didn't and doesn't...
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