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sasscell:
Ciy, I don't have e-sword on this computer, but I did look up the scriptures you mentioned.  I don't see these scriptures as specific, but infered as I stated.  However, I am reminded of this:

 1Cor. 10:11  Now all these things happened unto them FOR EXAMPLES: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

 It is accepted commonly I think that all Israel went through is a physical paralell of our spiritual life...did I say that right, spell that right?? ;) I think that is a bit more solid.

rjsurfs:

--- Quote ---there are cases where the historical event is a shadow of a deeper more profound spiritual event.

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Joe, 

I agree with you, however, this is not one of those cases.  If we take this parable literally it contradicts the rest of the Bible in regards to the death state.

sasscell:
Good scriptures Joe, thanks, but a question.  Christ is clearly the Word, BUT is Christ the scriptures? Obviously, The Word was around "in the beginning" long before the scriptures. I'm being serious, is there a difference?  Does Ray have something on this??

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Bobby

 You observe quite rightly I believe
--- Quote ---If we take this parable literally it contradicts the rest of the Bible in regards to the death state...
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To add : what is deeply insightful is that " The REASON for so many desiring to take this parable literally is an attempt to add credence to the HERETICAL teaching that God Almighty is going to torture the vast majority of all humanity." First page Lazarus and the Rich Man L. Ray Smith.http://bible-truths.com/lazarus.html

For me, this offers a powerful discernment of motive of the heart that is certainly the Babylonian heart of deceptive and false teachings of Church leaders who will not budge regarding what they think is the truth!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Bobby Proctor on August 09, 2007, 01:23:37 PM ---
--- Quote ---there are cases where the historical event is a shadow of a deeper more profound spiritual event.

--- End quote ---

Joe, 

I agree with you, however, this is not one of those cases.  If we take this parable literally it contradicts the rest of the Bible in regards to the death state.

--- End quote ---

True Bobby, I thought I was clear on that, my apology if I was not.

His Peace to you,

Joe

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