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rjsurfs:
Sascall,
Supernatural indeed! Here is my most favorite quote ever from Ray... It is also quite humorous...
--- Quote ---Many years ago I learned something most profound: "The ‘blind’ can’t see!"
Not many theologians believe that. Surely, if we present it in just the right way, they will see. No, they won’t. If they get sick enough of their life and sins, then they will see. No, they won’t. If we tell them often enough and with enough conviction, with hundreds of scriptures, and with charts and diagrams, and with analogies and examples, surely then at least "some" of the blind will see. No, they won’t. I’ll tell you why. Because the blind cannot see. I told you it was profound. You can hold it closer to their face, you can shout, you can shine a bright light on it. It doesn’t matter, "The blind can’t see!"
Christendom teaches that if people want to see and understand, then they can. It's all up to them. No it’s not. I know people who are physically blind, and they want to see, but they can’t because the blind can’t see.
When God Almighty "blinds" someone, they cannot see. I do not entertain any such notion that this paper will persuade anyone who is blind, to see it’s truth, unless God uses it to open their mind and remove the blindness. Let the Scriptures speak:
"Does not God thrust away His people?... God DOES NOT thrust away His people whom He fore knew" (Rom. 11:1-2).
"Thus, then, in the current era also, there has come to be a remnant according to the choice [God’s choice] of grace" (Rom. 11:8 ).
"What Israel is seeking for, this she did not encounter, yet the chosen [those God chose] encountered it. Now the rest [the rest of the Jews, all the rest of Israel] were calloused..." (Rom. 11:7).
Who calloused them? Who is operating all? Now pay close attention to this next verse. I just checked twenty-six translations and the Greek Text to be sure I’m right on this point, and they all say same the same thing.
"GOD gives them a spirit of stupor, eyes not to be observing, and ears not to be hearing, till this very day" (Rom. 11:8 ).
--- End quote ---
sasscell:
SO TRUE BOBBY!! "As in Adam all die, so shall in Christ all be made alive" MIGHT AS WELL NOT EVEN BE THERE!! That is a pretty plain scripture to me. ANYWAY, I was talking to a Catholic friend of mine about the Bible recently, she said she doesn't read the Bible as I asked why. She said she tries but the words are just all jumbled up like, she said she can see the words and they are easy words, but reading it just makes her feel weird. WOW!! I remember that!! When I first started reading the Bible, I got through the gospels easily, but ACTS!! I hit a wall!! I guess that was all the further God wanted me to go at that point.
hillsbororiver:
Great post Bobby,
A while back when researching another topic I ran into these (there are tons more to be found).
Deu 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.
Psa 25:14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will show them his covenant.
Pro 3:32 For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous.
Daniel who is a shadow/type of the elect had this encounter with Nebuchadnezzar;
Dan 2:47 The king answered unto Daniel and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
Hello again sasscell,
Peter speaks this of Paul and the inability of most to understand scripture, it is fairly obvious that this still holds true today;
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
sasscell:
Joe, are you saying that because something is "hard to be understood" or a"secret" that makes it a parable? I'm not getting that connection via the scriptures that have been posted.
ciy:
Joe and Bobby,
It is amazing that it takes a miracle of God to blind people from seeing what is staring them in their face.
Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
But the verses that amaze me are Romans 5:10-21. I have had many Christians read these verses and not be able to understand what it is clearly saying. At 5 times it says that as in Adam sin came to all so that through Jesus all are forgiven of their sins, but they cannot see these truths.
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
To me these are just so overpowering it takes a completely blind person to not see it.
CIY
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