Hi Falgnon,
I think once you hear the rest of the audio, you will get a much better understanding of where Jesus came from.
I have taken these excerpts that I think will help you for now.
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There are three theories about how Christ came about.
1) He came about for the first time as a human being, out of a physical mother. That was the first time Christ ever existed.
2) He was created sometime before that and them came into the mother.
3) Then you have, He is eternal, He always existed.
Very few believe He just came into existence as a physical human being, for the first time ever. Though I had one man argue with me for weeks. He said, ‘no, in the beginning was the Word and it was the Father, that the Word was God and not Christ‘. Not too many people believe that, but some do.
Most people follow the Christian tradition and they believe no. 3, that Christ was eternal, He’s part of the trinity and He’s always existed.
But of course the truth is no. 2, Jesus Christ was created.
-"the Origin of God’s creation" (James Moffatt).
-"God’s creative Original" (Concordant Literal New Testament).
-"The Chief of the creation of God" (Young’s Translation).
-"the Origin, and Beginning, and Author of God’s creation" (The Amplified New Testament).
Well the truth of the matter is from those translations, you can’t actually prove that He is not eternal, by that statement. But you say, yea He’s the beginning, He started the creation, He‘s eternal. So to me it’s a proof that He is the beginning. Not the beginning of what God has created on the earth, but He Himself is ‘the beginning’ of God’s creation. It depends how you emphasize. You have the same sentence with two totally different meanings.
It’s like, I tell you this day, today I’m telling you, you shall be in paradise. Or. I tell you, today you shall be in paradise. And there‘s this one. What’s that up in the road ahead. Or. What’s that up in the road, a head.
So we won’t place a lot of emphasis on that one. But one thing that we do know from that one is, before He was human, He was there! So we know whatever His beginning was, He was there, at the beginning.
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This "Almighty" is the "Alpha & Omega." This "Alpha and Omega" is called "First and Last" in Rev. 1:11 and "First and Last" in 1:17. But we still can’t conclusively prove it from that, that He was there. But then we read in verse 18, is the One who became "DEAD." Now the thing is, can God die? If Christ is eternally existing with His Father, eternally, how could He DIE? Can an eternal God die?
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[4] "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God,”
Actually & literally this verse says, "God was the Word" (Concordant).
“…and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by HIM(the Word) and without Him was not anything made that was made.” (John 1:1-3).
V. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us. the only begotten of the Father?"
The Word of God, that is the Word - Logos - Spokesman, ok. Jesus Christ has a name on His side (Revelation 19) and that name is, “the Word of God.” Jesus Christ is the Word - Spokesman - Logos - representative - messenger of God. Because nobody has ever heard God or seen Him. So if God wants to convey something to the human race, He does it through His Word - His Spokesman - His Messenger - His Logos - Jesus Christ. Now in Genesis how do we know that it’s not God the Father speaking, because no one has ever heard His voice or seen His shape for that matter. So when ever you hear a voice, it’s not God, well….not exactly.
[5] How can we be absolutely sure that this is not the Father speaking in Genesis? Answer: "And the Father Himself, which has sent Me, has born witness of Me. Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape" (John 5:37). Did Moses hear God’s voice? Answer: "Did ever people hear the voice of GOD speaking out of the midst of the fire, as you have heard, and live?" (Deut. 4:33). Did Moses see the shape of God? "you shall SEE MY BACK PARTS." (Exodus 33:18-23). This is Jesus.
[6] "For by HIM [Jesus] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS were created by Him and for Him" (Col. 1:15-19).
By Jesus Christ, that’s right He made everything.
"Let this mind be in you, which was [is] also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant [slave], and WAS made in the likeness of men"(Phil. 2:5-7).
Now here we learn a little more of what this is about. When it says “mind” it is the disposition of God Himself. Where it says “equal with God” it is the same amount or degree and so on.
“Being in the form of God…” is being inherently in the form of God. Inherently, that’s an interesting word, it means possessed at birth or the inborn, right. I thought now that is interesting, that before He became man, He was by birth - inborn. Strong’s uses the word, He existed as a ‘innate‘. Existent as an innate birth, a right by birth. That is what it means, a right by or through birth. Jesus Christ was born (to which of the angels did He ever say, you are My son I have begotten you), as a little boy in a manger? He was His Son, from the beginning. The whole idea of Jesus Christ, was to be a Son, ‘from the beginning.’ Now it says.
Phi 2:6 “…thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
v. 7 but made Himself of no reputation, and took on Himself the form of a servant(slave), and was made in the likeness of man.”
So this was an inborn right of birth, to have these powers. And what did He do? Where it says, He made Himself of no reputation, the KJ margin says, “He empted Himself of all His privileges.” I mean He is so mighty and everything, I mean you’re not going to kill Him. He has got to reduce down, to something really small, compared to what He was. And He voluntarily did that, “He took it on Himself,” you see. And He was made low enough to kill. It says in Hebrews, “A little lower than the angels,” so they could kill Him. And how was that accomplished? He emptied Himself of everything, God had given to Him. I guess God could have taken it away, but He didn’t take it away, Christ gave it up.
Now here is a verse you might not think proves that Christ is the Creator.
[7] “For though there be that are called gods (theos is plural), whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many; But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, OF Whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ BY Whom are all things, and we by Him" (I Cor. 8:5-6).
Everything, “all things” are out ‘of’ God.
The word "of" in this verse is ek ex and it means--origin, from, out of, like exist(toget out of, to exist). Here is the Concordant Translation "there is One God, the Father, OUT OF WHOM ALL IS" If "all things are out of God," then certainly that includes Jesus. Where is Jesus Christ ‘from‘? Is He some ‘thing‘? He is the grandest thing of all. “All things,” are ek ex from the Father. So where did Christ come from? It says “all things” are of or out of (ek ex) God. And there is only one God, the Father, and we in Him. “and one Lord Jesus Christ BY Whom” that means through or the channel of.
There it is!
Everything, all knowledge, the plan of the universe is out of God. But then it is channeled through Jesus Christ. Why? He’s the Spokesman, and the creator, and the Savior, and the example to humanity. Because God can’t come down and face us, face to face. Christ in His glory, in the OT, you couldn’t face Him either, it would have blown you away. But He emptied Himself. Christ talked about "My Father, your Father; My God, your God." (John 20:17)
So everything there is, is out of God and then it is through or By Jesus Christ, that He channeled everything that there is.
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat