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Kat:
Hi Joe,

I like what is being brought out here.
It has caused me to consider what my outlook is now opposed to what it use to be. 
I guess the way I use to think, had to do with believing we had a free will and were determining our own path.  I would get frustrated thinking things were happening, that did not have to happen.  As in people were making choices to do wrong things and cause problems and suffering, that did not have to happen.
Since I have been brought into the knowledge of the truth and had my eyes opened to the myth of free will, now I know that God causes all things.

Phi 2:13  For it is God who works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure.

All the truths I have been learning has so very much effected the way I look at things.  But as soon as I read that man does not have a free will, I think that was what made a big difference in the way I feel about others and has given me a whole different way to look at their actions.

So we need a new heart that when He starts teaching us His truths, that we can believe these things, and as you were saying;


--- Quote ---This process of discernment starting at our conception (by His Spirit), growing as we journey with Him as we interact with the brethren, finally culminating to full maturity at the resurrection to immortality
--- End quote ---

I think that is the way I see it too.  The more we learn of the truth and the more we interact with others and put these truths into practice, these experiences mature us towards being ready to stand before Him.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Deborah-Leigh:
Chris R

You ask....When is it that we must DO these judgements?

We must do these judgements when we are in the world interacting with the worldly. We must do these judgements when asked, questioned, challenged. We must interact I believe as Ray does with his detractors, hypocrites and abusers that come to test, refute and outright hate the Word of God. We have also to discern who is searching and answer in the gentle tones of edification where necessary. These two go hand in hand.

A few days ago a minister came to my shop. He opened a conversation because he saw the Concordance and several Bibles on my desk. He asked which Church I go to. I answered that on neither this mountain or on that mountain but in Spirit and in Truth is my Church. He challenged me and said to my face, so you do not assemble with the brethren. I challenged him right back and replied " So you know me do you?"  He tried the same conclusion a few sentences later after back peddling and again I said " So you know me do you?" I left him with the fact that Jesus said when you pray go into your closet and do not do as the hypocrite does. I said to him the Churches have their reward and they all pray outside the closet. I felt in my soul that this really touched  him and he will not be able to shake the fact that the Truth was said and he heard it. He left the shop and I felt sad for him. When he said he did not know me, of course he doesn't know me but I also felt it was Christ that he does not know for the Church preaches and teaches another Jesus.

It is one thing to be among like minded brethren, but in the world, that is where we have to be hot or cold, and do the walk not just talk the talk. We have to risk opposition, persecution and ridicule. Humanity is the beast is what we are taught by Ray in Who is the Beast.... some are coming out and are needing to hear the Truth. Few there are who will risk telling it.

Ray Smith tells it on the global internet. What is it to us to be ready in all seasons to tell one or two here or there that come and ask us or challenge or question us. How little is that in the bigger picture?

The harvest is great.....

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Beloved:
Correction
I made a mistake in my post..... there are not two flesh words, both are 1320



Beloved

YellowStone:
Arcturus, I just want to tell you that your post spoke to me so deeply. I am so impressed with how you handled the minister and your reponse of: " So you know me do you?"  is priceless and I mean this with all sincerity.

I will surely remember these words and the spirit in which they are to be given. Thank you so much for sharing this.  :)

Love in Christ the Lamb,

Darren

Deborah-Leigh:
Darren

It certainly was a gutsy inspired retort that was also risky being said straight in the face of a complete stranger not as a off the cuff remark but as a direct question demanding a direct answer not in any aggressive manner but in a hey...I will answer you if you answer me. This question was really inspired I believe, and by so saying in such an up front in your face way this also brought forward the fact that the minister was judging and condemning and that he had no authority to do so! What a dire and uncomfortable position to be exposed in not once but twice.  Without trying to teach him a thing, this gave him a real slap across the proverbial face to wake him up in his soul.

I almost could not believe the exchange but it did leave me both heart wrenched, amazed and inspired all at the same time. What struck me was that blind people are really not so terrifying after all and on a sadder leaning, if Jesus had said to him, who was speaking through me, so you know Me do you? the minister he had to say no twice.... That was hard for me on the one hand but on the other, he had been touched and the truth was spoken and he got it and I believe that. That is my comfort.

It was not for me to do or see more ....but it left me thinking of Ray and how he must feel when the Truth he speaks cuts into the darkness of his detractors with light undeniable. It is a good thing requiring risk of rejection or even pain to see that they turn away, go their way, trying to forget....

As for the minister, I know the Lord was at work in the heart of this person who came to my shop and I feel so grateful to have been able to experience this first time...in your face....way that shakes of the darkness of spiritual sloth, apathy and deception.

It is strange but three other people have been to my shop and opened conversation concerning the teachings of Babylon. I have not said anything but I remain on guard to not agree with any of their beliefs or their understanding and when called for agreement I refute with what I know, breaking down what they think is the truth and I have felt my soul rise up every time to the occasion. It is really wonderful. It happened again today. Only a few blocks of deception could be taken down in todays conversation though. Well...at least that was something!  Perhaps that is why God put me in a shop.... ;D ;D :D

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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