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rvhill:

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 Jesus was baptized with water for repentance.  But the only thing Jesus had to repent from was from being led of the law to that of being led of the Spirit, which He received at His water baptism.  According to Strong's the word repentance (Gr. metanoeo) doesn't mean 'I'm sorry'.  It means 'to have a change of thinking'.This 'change of thinking' was required for Him to "fulfill all righteousness".  Jesus had to quit thinking about  being led of the law (imputed righteousness) and start being led of the spirit (imparted righteousness) to usher in and demonstrate the reality of the new covenant and Gospel of the Kingdom of God.  

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I do not agree with the ideal that Jesus had any change of thought. God has only a plan A, and Jesus was from the beginning. I see it as Jesus went through baptism not for his sake, but for our sake. Jesus is our example in all things.

love_magnified:
Jesus was not repentant. That was not the reason he was baptized. He was baptized in order to fulfill the type & shadow requirement of all rabbis to be baptized in water in order to preach. Remember, Christ fulfilled the Law.

But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

rvhill:

--- Quote from: love_magnified ---Jesus was not repentant. That was not the reason he was baptized. He was baptized in order to fulfill the type & shadow requirement of all rabbis to be baptized in water in order to preach. Remember, Christ fulfilled the Law.
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Were does it say this I have never read it before?

It would make since though

love_magnified:
In being baptized, Christ was fulfilling the righteousness of the Law being that baptism represented being cleansed from sin. Luke 2 is a good example. Christ's parents performed all duties according to the Law when he was born including physical circumcision.

Lightseeker:

--- Quote from: rvhill ---
I do not agree with the ideal that Jesus had any change of thought. God has only a plan A, and Jesus was from the beginning. I see it as Jesus went through baptism not for his sake, but for our sake. Jesus is our example in all things.
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RV

I agree that God has only a Plan A.  Jesus, fulfilling the 'imputed' righteousness of the law, by perfectly living according to the law, was part of that plan A. But Jesus didn't just come to give us 'imputed' righteousness by accepting him as Savior.  He also came to reveal a "righteousness apart from the law".  And why do you say, 'he was baptized for our sake', since we still have a scriptural mandate to be  water baptized :?:   If he had been baptized for my sake I shouldn't need to be...just like he died on the cross for my sake...so I/you wouldn't have to.  Your statement "not for his sake, but for our sake" is a very traditional one, but can you support the merit of it with scriptural backing?

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