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The Price You Pay for Truth
DuluthGA:
Thanks for PMing me back Beth. Hang on to these verses for possible help with your hubby. First, Jesus says Himself that not all are given to see/hear/understand the truth:
Matt 13: 13-16 “Therefore in parables am I speaking to them, seeing that, observing, they are not observing, and hearing, they are not hearing, neither are they understanding.
14 And filled up in them is the prophecy of Isaiah, [Isa 6:10] that is saying, '"In hearing, you will be hearing, and may by no means be understanding, And observing, you will be observing, and may by no means be perceiving."
15 For stoutened is the heart of this people, And with their ears heavily they hear, And with their eyes they squint, Lest at some time they may be perceiving with their eyes, And with their ears should be hearing, And with their heart may be understanding, And should be turning about, And I shall [implied: would have to] be healing them.'
16 "Yet happy are your eyes, for they are observing, and your ears, for they are hearing. [Because it was Given for them to receive the truths.][Also Mark 4:12, Acts 28:26-27, Luke 8:10] [CLNT]
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Here's Rom 11: 32 in a bunch of different translations so you can really get the feel of the fact that God is the CAUSE of those who are not given to receive the truth.
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. [KJV]
For God has locked up all in the prison of unbelief, that upon all alike He may have mercy. [Weymouth NT]
For God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all. [CLNT]
For God hath shut up all together, in a refusal to yield, in order that, upon all, he may bestow mercy. [Rotherham’s]
for God did shut up together the whole to unbelief, that to the whole He might do kindness. [Young’s Literal Translation]
For God shut up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. [Green’s Literal Translation]
For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all. [NRS]
For God hath shut up together all in unbelief, in order that he might shew mercy to all. [Darby Translation]
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And finally here's a great verse that let's us know God has set all of this Babylon stuff up. And yes, we do have to come out of it.
Jer 16: 19O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
God's best to you Beth. I'll always be happy to hear from you or help you in any way! :)
Janice
bambam:
Janice,
Hello. My husband and I had another discussion last night and ended up in Romans 11 where it talks about all of Isreal being saved. It's neat for you to point out verse 32 today! :) I told my husband I just love verses 33-36. They are an explanation of God's ways and wisdom, and they are wonderful!! Thank you for the references! I think I will take a peek at Matthew 13 tonight!
Blessings,
Beth
indianabob:
Folks,
This is amazing to read.
This whole thread with bambam and her husband.
I have been in a similar situation, BUT from the opposite side of the family situation.
I was the husband in the mix and my poor wife was the one who didn't like to go along mostly because she is so naturally more perceptive of other peoples inner feelings. She can see right through a phony while I'm still introducing him to her. She called one of our pastors, 'the silver fox' because of his beautiful hair and the enticing smile with the slick vocabulary. Actually he was prettier than Ray Smith and lots younger. Ha ha, just kidding Ray.
Anyhow, just wanted to say that I will be praying for Beth and that I think I understand a little of what she is going through since after several years my wife has let out all her former frustrations and told me or let me see the truth about myself and the wolves I had been following while I or we were in WCG.
Meanwhile, we all can be praying for Beth as the spirit leads us, because she will need encouragement and to know that her sisters and brothers here at BT forum are thinking of her needs every day and every day.
Years ago, we learned from one of our friends that he believed that God condescends to call 'little ones' children or spouses who are of such great value to His called out and chosen ones, EVEN THOUGH that had not been the original plan. Perhaps, if we petition God, He will see the way to call Beth's husband since they are truly one flesh and should, one day, be of one mind. Let's hope so.
Love and hugs, Bob
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