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The Price You Pay for Truth
GODSown1:
Scribbles! ma brother?/ sister?,
I speak 4 ma self here but den again :), wen I went 2 c da snr Pastor of da Church I attended, da first church eva I attended in my life, he asked me 2 bring wot I had been studing or more wot my eyes & ears had been opened 2, But it all started bcoz I wasnt goin 2 church & da vessel GOD uzed 2 tap me on da shoulder he (Hugh)came ova & I told him the False Doctrines bein preached in Church & he said I was bein deceived!, & I jus replied woteva U r bla bla bla, so he went 2 c da Pastor whom I had great respect 4, da Pastors wife rung me 2 cum c dem, she also was sum1 I hav much respect 4, bla bla bla, I Pray sum day soon GOD will Open der eyes & ears 2 HIS Wonderful Truths, I know its all jus GODS Will, whence da reasons Y, I & n e body else act & say in da manner in which We do, Y!!?? BCOZ! "GODS in CONTROL!!". so wot im sayn is GOD wanted us 2, GODBlesS!!, Peace 2 U...
muchLOVE!! Pera
bambam:
God is good! He is AWESOME. And nothing can sway me from that!! gmik, recant was my word.:-) I am sorry if I gave the impression that it was a word my pastor used. He is not a jerk! Blind maybe, but not a jerk because he really believes what he believes. We are getting rid of the internet for more than one reason. Though I do not want to get rid of it, it will be okay! I just can't get over the peace I feel right now. It IS a peace that passes all understanding! God is in control. His ways are not mine. For the first time in my entire life I am laying motionless in His hands. I am not doing anything. I have not planned anything. I have no where to go. I am truly resting in Him, and the peace I find there is-well-unexplainable. Because I acknowledge for real, that I have no say in what goes on in this life anyways, I can do nothing BUT rest and move as He causes me to. My heart is thrilled. My soul is strengthened in Him. God is good! I trust Him!
P.S. I am going to hang in here till Thursday-that's when we get disconnected. ;)
Blessings,
Beth
hillsbororiver:
Hello Everyone,
Before my wife decided to leave the Baptist church she was attending I attempted an email communication with her pastor, it truly was a joke.
To keep it short here, I sent small portions of articles by Ray and asked the minister to please refute them with Scripture, he couldn't. Instead he sent me the despicable writings of Jonathon Edwards which I took a few hours and refuted, chapter and verse, it was not very difficult as Mr. Edwards uses very little Scripture.
This man has a Masters Degree in theology and the church is paying for his Doctorate, it is easy to discern he wants desperately to be called "Doctor." He did not respond after my fine tooth comb (Scripture) review of the Jonathon Edwards article claiming he was "just too busy," my final request to him included my observation that one Day unless he truly seeks the Wisdom of the Lord with a contrite heart he may have to recall those very words to the Lord Himself.
I never heard back from him.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
indianabob:
Beth and all the helpers who have commented, Thank you for your gracious words.
I have thought about this type of situation for several years.
My brief thought about it is that we are being trained and prepared to serve God in a wonderful way in the coming Kingdom of our Lord Jesus when he returns to claim his throne. At that time he will take charge and institute true government in the earth. When things have calmed down a little and a form of social order is organized there will be millions of frightened and lonely people who will need a shoulder to cry on and that shoulder will be each of us. Jesus is a sharing leader just like his Father and our Father and I am sure that this example will be followed by Jesus.
We will each be available to use our hard earned talents along with the great patience and spiritual understanding that Jesus will impart to us, to comfort and counsel and encourage all those millions of lost souls who are hurt and confused and our knowledge will come partly from God and partly from our human experiences that have taught us to empathize with the suffering that others have had to endure, in many cases, without even understanding why. All of this is part of our spiritual training.
Therefore, in many cases it may be advisable to remain somewhat attached to the church we were in and attached to the family that we were born or married into and to spend our time growing in grace and knowledge of what it is like to be IN the world and yet not OF the world. What better place to internalize what it is like to have to live among non-believers and continue to love them.
Do we have to separate ourselves from everyone in order to honor God? I don't think that Jesus requires us to become spiritual hermits. Didn't Paul mention that we have to seek new converts among the pagans as well as among the people of God? Who knows whether there may be one or two out of a hundred in our local church who will begin to ask questions of us and allow GOD to bless them through our poor efforts, even a year or two from now. Could this be an example of the patience of the Saints who continue to live among the unbelievers keeping their own private counsel and yet being ready to give an answer for the faith that lies within them at the appropriate time?
How will you share your new understanding with others if you have no contact with them. Who will most likely understand what you are sharing other than a person already familiar with the Bible? Running away to be with ONLY those of like mind and like beliefs may not be the best use of our hard earned training. So, perhaps remain where you are and be a light with no particular agenda other than to provide love and to learn to endure with patience. That in itself is a great accomplishment.
All comments are welcome. Thank you, Bob
DuluthGA:
Great thoughts and sentiments Indiana Bob! And I agree... one has to make a little sound to get persecuted as Jesus forewarned. One does not get hated and persecuted by not uttering a word. Ray Smith "makes sounds" as God has given him in his heart to do, and he has the honor of being hated and he has suffered persecution for sake of the truth of God's Word.
My post for Beth today is that I would be more than happy to make Ray audio CDs or print out transcriptions and mail them to you to keep you updated with BT material. I will PM you right now with my snail mail address and phone number for you to write or call me anytime and make any requests, no problem, it would give me much joy.
Hoping the best for you in our Lord :)
With love,
Janice
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