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Free will
Craig:
Good for you, you were a good 5 months quicker than me.
Craig
psalmsinger:
Making choices reminds me of studying the Probabilty in math once upon a time:) Wikipedia: Probability is the likelihood that something is the case or will happen. Probability theory is used extensively in areas such as statistics, mathematics, science and philosophy to draw conclusions about the likelihood of potential events and the underlying mechanics of complex systems. Humans spend entire careers gathering statistics and information to determine risk factors and outcomes in every type of situation in order to make decisions regarding every facet of living. God takes no risks in His creation. He knows the expected outcome, He is the creator, He is also the God and creator of probability and charts the perfect outcome of every creation. What a Mind God has!
Rest in the Lord,
Barbara
Abed:
Sonofone,
The Soverignty of God is book ended and there's no room for debate. If one's actions determines God's sovereignty, then His Omnipotence seizes to exist. For a man's actions to influence God's will is to essentially say God changes His mind because that person's actions determined God's ultimate will. Like Ray said in his writings, God causes all that will happen in the future. God IS the future. God is the Alpha and the Omega -- He IS the beginning; He IS the end, and NOTHING can be different from what God says MUST BE. Sometimes outcome of things portray God changed as a result of perhaps what we did, that's relative speaking but in the absolute spiritual sense, God does not change. Infact this could be a touchy subject since we are all carnal. For instance, wat happens if we ask people to pray for us on a particular matter? If the outcome is favourable, does that mean our prayers or and or the intercessory prayers changed God's mind? Spiritually speaking I dont think so because like Ray said, God put the circumstances in motion by what we prayed for and the inspiration came from HIM alone that's why the folks that prayed on that matter WERE able to pray. Simply and essentially ALL IS OF GOD. God never changes and no one can change any circumstance that God has not already forordained and that's my belief in a nutsell (Eph 1:11) Isaiah 46:10
You see if my actions can thwart the will of the Most High God, then He ceases to be Omnipotent. But God forbid.. The sovereignty of God is the truth and that's only spiritually discerned I believe
This could be a tough subject to grasp without the aid of the Holy Spirit so let's all continue to pray for understanding and spiritual discernment
Regards to you and God bless
Abed
sonofone:
--- Quote from: Abed on December 08, 2007, 11:28:59 AM ---Sonofone,
The Soverignty of God is book ended and there's no room for debate. If one's actions determines God's sovereignty, then His Omnipotence seizes to exist. For a man's actions to influence God's will is to essentially say God changes His mind because that person's actions determined God's ultimate will. Like Ray said in his writings, God causes all that will happen in the future. God IS the future. God is the Alpha and the Omega -- He IS the beginning; He IS the end, and NOTHING can be different from what God says MUST BE. Sometimes outcome of things portray God changed as a result of perhaps what we did, that's relative speaking but in the absolute spiritual sense, God does not change. Infact this could be a touchy subject since we are all carnal. For instance, wat happens if we ask people to pray for us on a particular matter? If the outcome is favourable, does that mean our prayers or and or the intercessory prayers changed God's mind? Spiritually speaking I dont think so because like Ray said, God put the circumstances in motion by what we prayed for and the inspiration came from HIM alone that's why the folks that prayed on that matter WERE able to pray. Simply and essentially ALL IS OF GOD. God never changes and no one can change any circumstance that God has not already forordained and that's my belief in a nutsell (Eph 1:11) Isaiah 46:10
You see if my actions can thwart the will of the Most High God, then He ceases to be Omnipotent. But God forbid.. The sovereignty of God is the truth and that's only spiritually discerned I believe
This could be a tough subject to grasp without the aid of the Holy Spirit so let's all continue to pray for understanding and spiritual discernment
Regards to you and God bless
Abed
--- End quote ---
Cheer up Abed,God has indeed answered prayer on my behalf,clearly showing me the folly of my original post. I now accept that man has no freewill.It took some time,but the baby has been delivered.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Abed
Welcome to the Forum.
Your grasp of the topic is well articulated.
I too believe that the myth of Free Will is so vast a Truth so encouragement into the direction of belief is so precious.
This thread is most informative and is for me uplifting to see you sonofone reaching deeper insights.
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
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