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sonofone:
I have asked several questions over the past week that garnered responses,however not answered. While I appreciate feedback from responses,I would like to get some direct answers to my questions. I will recap the questions asked and only ask those who feel they have an answer to these questions to respond,so that my original question does not get buried. My questions are in the post marked freewill,Jesus church, anointed appointed. What I feel went unanswered was my original question on Jesus Church Eph 4 vs11-13 Where are we in relationship to this? Also on the same post what about the Gates? Freewill what of the law of mistakes,and perfect performance?What about the flood and tower of babel? and anointed appointed How can be God be just to punish us for doing his will ? In all cases see my original post for the complete questions, Sorry I don't know how to pull all of the post and put them on here for your convenience. Thanks! Once again please do not reply if you do not have an answer to this, Pm me if you have some comment you feel you must share but don't bury my questions with responses that do not address the question or add a new question that loses or buries mine Thanks

YellowStone:
Hi SonOfOne,

This might not be what you want to hear, but I think it might help your cause somewhat :)

First, most people (myself included) like to see the any Scriptures that are in question, posted to the thread that containes the question being asked.

Secondly, why not share your understanding first, this way a simple answer might be "I think you have a good understanding, I agree." or "I think I see where you are coming from, but have you considered this...."

As it is, I see bunches of questions, but nothing from which to help you, because I have no idea where you are coming from. I can only speak for myself, but it is my guess that others are feeling the same. I truly believe, you will help yourself more by helping us.

Oh, it is always a good thing to NOT ask a bunch of questions at once. Who knows, you might know more than you think.

Please take this as friendly advice, and I mean no harm to you.

So, in closing....What do you think regarding all that you ask? :)

Much love to you in Christ,

Darren

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello sonofone

I know it must be very frustrating to ask a question and get no answers.   I have just come across a post that ended with no answers for a most interesting post that was presented by a member not too long ago. I may even reopen it because I now have some ideas that might help bring the answers to light or cause more teachings to come forward that have been elaborated on by Ray.

Also, I have found, that some answers do not appear for YEARS. Then when the answer comes, you realise you were not quite ready for the reply.... :D well I am just sharing my own personal experience.


Peace be to you

Arcturus :)

lilitalienboi16:
Hello SonofOne, i agree with what both darren has said and arcturus but i think that most of your questions, if not all, are answered in rays articles. I have read your questions, and the answers are there. I simply cannot go through all the scritpures with you because these questions are far to great to be answered in one forum post, and i simply do not have the will in me atm, to go and dig up all the answers.

I hope you take my advice, and read and re-read what ray has posted, you'll be surprised that you will often times see something you missed the first time through.

God bless you,

Alex

Kat:
Hi sonofone,


--- Quote ---How can be God be just to punish us for doing his will ?
--- End quote ---

Here is an email that cover your question on God being just, since we have no free will.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1493.0.html ---------------------------

Dear Charles:
As these are matters of the spirit, only God can ultimately help you to understand. I will, however, attempt to point you in the right direction.
 
I realize that almost all people when dealing with this matter of free will, unknowingly use words that are not accurate and often defamitory in trying to rectify God's works in their minds.  We cannot force God's ways in to OUR WAYS.
Yet we have all been guilty of trying to do this most of our lives.  God plainly speaks at times and at others He speaks in mysteries. Here is a plain statement from God that explains the mystrious ones:  "For My thought ARE NOT your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.  For as the heavens are higher than the earth, SO [in like manner] are My ways HIGHER than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts"  (Isa. 55:8-9).
 
Now there IS the answer, yet we will not accept that answer because we don't understand that answer.  Why then do you and most of the world have a problem with God and His operation of things, and I don't?  Why do you use the "CONTRADICTION" and I don't.  Is there any way to bridge this dichotomy of God's thoughts and our thoughts?  Yes there is:  "Let this MIND BE IN Y-O-U, which was also in Christ Jesus..."  (Phil. 2:5).
 
Without the mind of God, we will never understand the spiritual things of God.  They will ALWAYS seem like "foolishness" to the carnal mind. "But the natural man receives NOT the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED"  (I Cor. 2:14).
 
As it is absolutely Scripturally true that man has no free will, and therefore is always subject to the higther powers that be, when people begin to see this truth, they often balk at it and feel that God is unfair and that man is being judged for things that God MADE HIM DO AGAINST HIS WILL.  When in reality, NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!!
 
Most of the human race has always believed that it possesses "free will."  And so as long as any man believes this falsehood, he is operating in his own little world with absolutely no grudge against God for his personal decisions.  But when he begins to see that he has no free will, he then does begin to think that he has a justifiable grudge against God for MAKING HIM SIN.  He was wrong when he thought that he had free will, and he is just as wrong when he thinks that the only alternative is that God MAKES HIM SIN AGAINST HIS OWN WILL.
 
I have stated many times that God DOES NOT MAKE OR FORCE ANYONE TO SIN AGAINST HIS OWN WILL--MAN DESIRES TO SIN, WANTS TO SIN, AND THEREFORE VOLUNTEERS TO SIN.  God did not FORCE or MAKE Eve eat of the forbidden fruit. Her own DESIRES caused her to lust and eat of the forbidden fruit.
And so the real question is: "Does God have the right to make mankind subject to the desires of their own heart?"  Think about it, as I have, for a few thousand hours, and maybe God will grant to you the spiritual understanding of this matter.
 
Hundreds of totally deceived and spiritually blind Christians have told me that: "God does not want robots to love Him--He desires people to love Him by their OWN FREE WILL."  Oh really?  And can the carnal mind indeed love God by its own nature; its own heart; its own desires?  NO IT CAN'T.  And so the very thing that Christians demand as necessary for our love for God to be genuine, is the very thing that totally disqualifies it from being genuine.  The natural mind is totally incapable of  loving God:  "For the carnal mind is enmity [deep-seated HATRED] AGAINST GOD..." (Rom. 8:7).
 
It all starts with God, not with us:  "We love Him [God] because He FIRST LOVED US"  (I John 4:19).
 
God created mankind spiritually WEAK--subject to the lusts and sins of his own heart, so that man will learn that he CANNOT love God first;  he cannot obey spiritual laws and commandments;  he cannot please God;  he cannot accomplish anything of lasting value through his wicked and deceitful heart. (Jer. 17:9).  And therefore God's ways will justify His means.  The rewards and the blessings are not even to be compared with the glory that God is creating in the human race (Rom. 8:18).
 
And so here is the answer to your question:
 
BEFORE spiritual conversion man FALSELY THINKS that he has free will and is for all intent and purpose a god unto himself.
 
AFTER spiritual conversion man will be eternally thankful that God never gave us such a foolish concept as "free will," or he would never ever reach the marvelous heights of power and glory that God has in mind for him.
 
And presently, you and some few others, are in between these two extremes of human understanding. I will pray for God to grand to you a "spirit of wisdom" so that you will comprehend and apprehend the marvelous and mysterious working of our God.

God be with you,
Ray

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