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Is this judgeing?
ciy:
Alex,
I believe you are scriptually correct.
Titus 3:9-11 "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. Aman that is a heretic after the first and second admonition reject, knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself."
Also just keep filling up with the word and remember the following verse:
Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the Lord."
CIY
rocky:
--- Quote from: Gregor on September 29, 2007, 04:12:16 AM ---Greetings Alex,
Here's a passage to read and meditate on: Phil.1:12-20. The verses that jumped out at me in particular: vs.15-18, NKJV, "Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will: The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice."
Also: 2Tim.4:1-5; James 2:12,13
Search your heart brother, judge yourself, and may you find love as the motivating factor.
Your brother in Christ,
G.
--- End quote ---
Now that is a good verse to contemplate. thanks for posting.
"Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will: The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice."
Also: 2Tim.4:1-5; James 2:12,13
lilitalienboi16:
Okay to get you an idea of what was said to me, here are some of the things;
This verse is the refutal to deal with. We can listen to all your un orthodox, unbiblical doctrine of demons all day long, but until you exegete Scripture that goes against you, you have nothing to stand on. Dude, why didnt the church fathers and the apostles teach this? They did not. Sproul says that if you discover something in the Bible that has gone over looked by the church for 2000 years, its a good bet to get that idea out of your head. This was never taught, its hard to make points and rebuttles with all the commotion in here. You are not studyed up enough on true Scripture to make any points on anything. This is heresy, and the Epistles Peter wrote were warnings against people like yourself. You pick single verses out of chapters of the Bible, which is not how you exegete Scripture. It cant contradict itself, which is something you are full of. Ive tried to remain civil, but for some reason you have gotten totally out of control already. If universalism is true, what is the point of morality or imitating Christ, which is what ALL christians are supposed to do. So, morality and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, these are refuttles, so there it is. Please explain, and oh yeah, everyone please read carfully what he writes, it'll be good! :)
Some more;
Where is your Babylon? Your interpretation of scripture is not accepted in any country. In China, they are being perscuted and tortured and around the world Christians are being martyred like in no other time in history. They would find your theology insulting. People die for Christ every day. You have made their deaths meaningless with your selfish theolgy that lacks a clear understanding of scripture. Explain your "all will be saved" theology to the persecuted church. Forget the place you consider Babylon. Explain why men and women are dying unnecessarily for thier faith. You have a cheap faith. You are leading others astray into a doctriine that may cause them to go to hell. I pray you do have any followers. You will be accountable for every soul you lead astray with your false doctrine. That is why what you are teaching is so dangerous.
Some more;
Alex, you have a lot of pride. You have a way that seemeth right to you. You act like God. That is dangerous and selfish. You cherry pick scripture to meet your own needs. You fail to understand that your words can be harmful to those who do not know the Word of God. You will not convince those who know the Word of God. This I can be sure. It is those who do not know the Word of God that can be sent to hell because you have taught them there is no hell. That makes your teaching very dangerous.
God sent his son to die for your sins. He did it all for Love. All for you. He wants a a response to His Love. You have taken His life and death on the cross and made it meaningless and you are too blind to know you hurt the God you claim to love by ignoring His Word.
There are some of the things said to me, alot more was said. I certainly was very pationate in speaking towards them, emphasizing my points. Yet i still did it out of love and not anger, though i spoke with great passion, which was sometimes mistaken for hatred or anger, which i assured them it was not. I told them i had nothing against anyone, just the doctrines they taught.
I pretty sure i never said anything negative to anyone, except that they despise the Word of God and that if they won't believe the Word of God, my words will do little to convince them.
They always asked me why i was judgeing them.. and i don't think i am, i mean, thats my thing is, is telling someone the flat out truth, judgeing them?
There it is, answer me this please;
"IS TELLING SOMEONE THE FLAT OUT TRUTH JUDGEING THEM?"
If i can get an answer to that, then i can finaly be at peace of wether indeed i was judgeing, or if i was merely rebuking there nonsence.
Thanks for all the answers guys, you have been a great help.
God bless,
Alex
Deborah-Leigh:
What did Ray write about being blind. Even if you shine a torch at blind eyes they still will not see....something like that anyway 8) ;D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Craig:
Alex, you are young and if you learn the following lesson early in life you will be much better off. I learned this lesson several years ago, but even then I wish it would have come years earlier.
Don't go to the forums and try and debate with anyone you won't change their minds, if you are not well grounded and learned in your beliefs you will appear foolish, and then our human nature kicks in and we dig ourselves a deeper hole.
You are much better off to make one scriptural, intelligent post and then remain silent. It is your job to sow the seeds, God will make them sprout and grow. If a forum has a thousand people following it, maybe one will send you a personal message wanting to know more.
Blessings
Craig
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