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lilitalienboi16:
Anyone read this book? I read it a while ago, about 2 years ago back in highschool.

I wanted to share something that i just came across again as i was cleaning my room.

"We look for God to manifest Himself to His children. God only manifests Himself in His children. Other people see the manifestation, the child of God does not. We want to be consciouse of God, we cannot be conscious of our own consciousness and remain sane."

I though this statement was quiet beautiful, and i feel it has truth to it. The only part i would disagree on is that God doesn't ONLY manifests Himself in His children, He can manifest Himself anyway, but other then that this is a beautiful statement of truth. Atleast imo.

So anyone read the book, thoughts and comment on the quote?

I have others that i found quiet beautiful if you would like me to quote them.

God bless,

Alex

Robin:
I read that book for a long time. At first it was very hard to understand and then God started teaching me and I found things I didn't agree with. God used that book and many other things to teach me and encourage me on my journey.

I'll send you one I like in a PM because I think it may be against the forum rules to post it here.


 

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Alex

Here is a quote ( not in the book you mention though) that comes to mind from your post.

Rev 3 : 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears and listens to and heeds My Voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will eat with him, and he with Me.

Mat  11 : 27 All things have been entrusted and delivered to Me by My Father; and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son deliberately wills to make Him known.

I would caution that the teachings you refer to  more tend to feeding carnal comfort zones rather than inspiring obedience. Personally I find all the best sellers coming out of Christiandom, serve mammon and the needs to have our pains and fears appeased. They do little to nothing to reveal Christ. As Ray points out in his letter to James Kennedy :

First, let me state my position succinctly:

1.      Whatever we teach must "glorify" God.

"Glory to God in the highest ... " (Lk. 2:14).
 
" ... that in all God may be glorified ... " (I Pt. 4:11).

2.      Whatever we teach must not detract one iota from Christ's sacrifice for all humanity.

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus; Who gave Himself a ransom for all to be testified in due time." (I Tim. 2:5-6)

"For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the savior of all men [mankind], specially [not exclusively] to those that believe. These things command and teach." (I Tim. 4:10-11)

I find that only in Ray's teachings the encouragement for us to labour and suffer reproach and follow Christ. Just look at what is revealed in Ray's teaching about the Beast that we are. This is what irks me that this very Beast will invent panacea's and opium's to pain kill our carnal deaths in order to satisfy our carnal flesh. I know I KNOW...I too need the comfort zones sometimes....I too yearn for relief and escape from agony. It is all too human a trait but as Jesus did not drink from the sponge when He thirsted on His Cross, neither should we and we should follow teachings that inspire us to follow Him and listen to Him.

Sorry Alex. I have read so many good sounding teachings that bring comfort and peace in the world but do little to encourage that through tribulation, not escape from it, we enter the Kingdom of God. Hope this does not sound too harsh and just gives to you another perspective to reflect on. It is not meant to hurt you or criticize you but only to caution against teachings that inspire the pleasing and gratifying fostering of errors and turn aside from hearing Christ.

Ray's teachings are far more worth while discussing.  :)

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Gregor:
Greetings Arcturus,
You said,
"I too yearn for relief and escape from agony. It is all too human a trait but as Jesus did not drink from the sponge when He thirsted on His Cross, neither should we and we should follow teachings that inspire us to follow Him and listen to Him."

This really speaks to me, because the soldiers offered Christ vinegar, not water. True spiritual water comes from God, not man. Man's "water" is like vinegar to the spiritual pallet. It is bitter and leave us more thirsty than before. (BTW, I haven't read My Utmost for His Highest so I don't know what catagory it fits - so I'm not passing judgement on it) Christ said if we come to Him, he will give us water John.4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life
Peace
G.

YellowStone:
Hi Alex,

No I have not read this book, and while I agree with the words of caution from Arcturus, in that it is a fools paradise to chase after every word written. However, does not one use a blunt unassuming stone to keep the edge of sword keen?

This stone could if used improperly, destroy the knife; however, when used with discernment, it will give a sword a a razors edge. I have used many books such as you mentioned in my past; not as to weaken my faith, but to strengthen it. Truth is truth no matter where it is found just as a falsehood is a lie no matter who speaks it.

Not that I have need or the time to read such books now :)

Love to you in Christ our Saviour,
Darren

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