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Faith without works is Dead
jacieleigh:
Forgive the intrusion but I must ask a question. Does the thread mean that those who are still in the established churches are less spiritually correct (for lack of a better term) than those who do notattend an established church. I must say too that I agree with the person(forgive me, I don't recall the name) who has received help from the church. The Bible speaks of "whatsoever you do for these... you do for Me". I have been in circumstances where I would have people tell me to have faith and trust God and they would be praying for me but that didn't stop the pain in my stomach from having no food to eat.
Craig:
--- Quote from: jacieleigh on October 26, 2007, 04:46:34 AM ---Forgive the intrusion but I must ask a question. Does the thread mean that those who are still in the established churches are less spiritually correct (for lack of a better term) than those who do notattend an established church. I must say too that I agree with the person(forgive me, I don't recall the name) who has received help from the church. The Bible speaks of "whatsoever you do for these... you do for Me". I have been in circumstances where I would have people tell me to have faith and trust God and they would be praying for me but that didn't stop the pain in my stomach from having no food to eat.
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I think it has been stated many times before, that what you do is between you and God, if the church is where you feel you need to be, who are any of us to tell you differently. I don't consider myself to be any better off spiritually than anyone else anywhere, I just feel blessed that God called me to follow, see and believe the truths of His word. And over time to be more able to defend my faith if asked, and to be used to show Christ in me.
But I will add this.
Why do you attend church?
If you believe any of the teachings of the scripture as Ray brings out, is it not against what the church teaches?
If it is and you don't believe what the church teaches then why be there?
It is obviously not for spiritual nourishment, because not much truth is there, so must it be to feed our carnal desires?
What desires are being fed?
I don't want anyone to answer, these are just questions to ponder.
Craig
Dennis Vogel:
It is impossible to go to church and maintain your honesty. Sooner or later someone is going speak positively about some rank heresy and you will have to comment. That's when:
Joh 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Also consider:
2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Ray has a saying: "If the church teaches it, it's wrong." If you dig just a little you will find the church's teaching's are 99.99% wrong (but as I just said, you do have to dig).
Dennis
Dennis Vogel:
Please let me add:
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Who/what do you think God is refering to when He say "come out of her?"
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: jacieleigh on October 26, 2007, 04:46:34 AM ---Forgive the intrusion but I must ask a question. Does the thread mean that those who are still in the established churches are less spiritually correct (for lack of a better term) than those who do notattend an established church. I must say too that I agree with the person(forgive me, I don't recall the name) who has received help from the church. The Bible speaks of "whatsoever you do for these... you do for Me". I have been in circumstances where I would have people tell me to have faith and trust God and they would be praying for me but that didn't stop the pain in my stomach from having no food to eat.
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Actually some of us not only attend a church that is established, but belong to THE ONLY TRULY ESTABLISHED CHURCH (1st Peter 2:5, Mark 14:58, 1 Corinthians 12:13).
- Hebrews 11:10 - For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
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