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fe32k:
Can anyone shed some light on this:

1Ti 2:15
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

I know Ray is busy with the conference, so I figured I shouldn't bother him with it. But what does this mean? I have looked at different translations and have nothing. How can childbearing save a woman? Thanks in advance.

GBWY,
Roy

Chris R:
Childbearing does not save a woman, Yet all will be saved.

For there is but one name under heaven from which men can be saved it is Christ.

Yes all "shall be" saved.

But how? 

Through the name of Jesus Christ,

How is this accomplished?

Judgment!  And who judges? 

don't you know the Saints shall judge the world? [1Cor 6:2]

And just where do these Saints come from?

Through childbearing......But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called [me] by his grace, [Gal 1:15]

Chris R

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Roy


Firstly I would like to suggest to you that you make a study of http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm Twelve God-given Truths to understand His Word.

For me, the word “saved” in this verse does not  mean what Babylon preaches and believes that some will be “saved” and others will not be “saved.” As noted by Chris R one can not be "saved" by giving literal physical birth to a child.

Also, the Scriptures are not literal but Spiritual.

The spiritual admonitions to women  from the verse you are studying were that they continue in faith, love, holiness and sobriety in order to not die in giving birth. This holds true for  spiritual maturity to salvation which as Chris R notes is through Jesus Christ.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

lilitalienboi16:
Well consider the fact that we are being concieved by God right now, and that when we are birthed, or BORN AGAIN into the KINGDOM we are SAVED.

Here is another interesting scrpture to consider;

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

 

Kat:
Hi Roy,

Here's a little bit of a different perspective.

1Ti 2:13  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

saved in Strong's - to save, that is, deliver or protect (literally or figuratively)

I am looking at this in a physical sense.  The women was created second, she was decieved, it says she is the weaker vessel (1 Peter 3:7).  All these things seem to make the woman lesser than a man.  But she was given the grand purpose of being the one to which all of mankind is brought into the world.  This in and of itself gives the woman a awesome purpose that nobody can deny.  But then again this is not enought by itself, if the woman has a terrible character.  So this gives her worth, but it is up to her to add the good character (faith and charity and holiness with sobriety) to gain respect from people.

that's just what I am thinking  :)

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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