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Is Praying in Tongues the same as Praying in the Holy Spirit?
rjsurfs:
Fabio,
Yes, I believe so... understanding comes through the spirit.
Ray talks about this in Lake of Fire... in Part VII:
--- Quote ---By the way, the idea of an "inerrant" or flawless translation is not even possible. It just isn’t possible to translate one language into another language PERFECTLY. It cannot humanly be done! There are many words, idioms, and colloquial sayings in many languages that simply HAVE NO EXACT EQUIVALENT in other languages. But that’s okay. It is possible to understand God’s Word even with these difficulties, differences, and imperfect translations. That is because the real understanding is in the SPIRIT and not in the LETTER. Certainly God uses both, but the emphasis is on the former and not the latter.
The strange languages we find on earth today are the inventions of God Himself. Yes, they are. God confounded the languages of mankind at the Tower of Babel. He really did a number on the Chinese, didn’t He?
God knows that understanding His Word is not a casual task that can be accomplished without great effort. Paul told Timothy to "STUDY," rather than just casually read the Scriptures. Even with the aid of God Spirit, we must study, God does not miraculously cause His saints to memorize and understand all Scripture.
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And:
--- Quote ---UNDERSTANDING COMES ONLY FROM THE SPIRIT
In John 16:4 we read this,
"But these things have I told you, that WHEN THE TIME SHALL COME, ye may remember that I told you of them."
Verses 12-15,
"I have yet MANY THINGS to say unto you, but ye CANNOT bear them now. Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into ALL TRUTH: for He shall not speak of Himself [Jesus IS this Spirit of Truth]; but whatsoever He shall hear [from His Father], that shall He speak: and He will show you things to come. He shall glorify Me: for He shall receive of Mine, and shall show it unto you. All things that the Father has are Mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of Mine, and shall show it unto you."
So why didn’t the disciples understand these things when Jesus first taught them? Because they weren’t converted as yet. They did not have the Spirit of God as yet. That is the ONLY way we can ever understand these deep symbolic mysteries of God:
"But God has revealed them unto us BY HIS SPIRIT: for the Spirit searches ALL things, yea, the DEEP things of God" (I Cor. 2:10)
"But we have the MIND of Christ" (Verse 16).
I believe we need to beware of those who claim to know God’s Spiritual Truths, but know preciously little about God’s Word, the Scriptures. God’s Spirit never contradicts His Word, but the Church’s teaching contradicts God’s Word in hundreds of places.
God has hid these mysteries from the world and even from the Church, I am sad to say. Not that I am the only one to begin understanding these things. There have always been some in every generation that God gave this understanding to. And there are now people scattered around the world that understand these deep mysteries of God and His prophecies for the future, but they are relatively few in number.
Notice Revelation 5:10,
"And has made US unto our God KINGS and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."
Now Proverbs 25:2,
"It is the glory of God to CONCEAL a thing: but the honour of kings is to SEARCH OUT a matter."
And so if we are to be kings, it is our honour to "search out" these things. You must want it more than anything in the world; more than anything in life, more than life itself! If you want life, you must SACRIFICE your life.
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I hope that helps,
Bobby
Kat:
Hi Fabio,
Glad to see that helped :) Bobby brought up some good references. And I want to mention that the conference that Ray just had last week, he spoke on 'How We Got The Bible.' This goes into a lot of explanations about the translations. It's very good to have this understanding of how the scriptures were written and came to be in all these translations. He used the list of spurious scriptures at this link: http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm.
The audio of the conference is at this link:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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