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Is Praying in Tongues the same as Praying in the Holy Spirit?

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rjsurfs:
Hi Fabio,

This verse came to my mind when I first read this thread:

1Co 12:3  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.  (King James)

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I am making known to you that no one, speaking by God's spirit, is saying, "Anathema is Jesus. And no one is able to say "Lord is Jesus except by holy spirit." (Concordant)

I believe this scripture works with the Romans scripture quoted by Kat and Joe as well.  To call on Jesus truly as Lord requires the Holy Spirit... it is also the Holy Spirit actually praying for us... through us... as well as stated in Romans 8:26.

Some of the versions Kat posted I think make it more clear that Jude 1:20 is stating "pray as you are directed by the Holy Spirit" and " as the Holy Spirit helps you to pray".

Bobby

Kat:

Hi Lacy,

I would like to mention one thing about your post.


--- Quote ---we are to continue to ask the Holy Ghost for help when we are in need.

So we need to ask the holy spirit for help in everything we do because it guides us

we should pray and call on to the Holy Ghost to help us and he will
--- End quote ---

These statements make it sound like you are speaking of the Holy Spirit as a third being of the God head  ;)

I think you know this, but I just wanted to bring out that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ that is indwelling in the elect  :)

Rom 8:9  But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Lacey23:
So sorry... I know that The Holy Spirit is not the third person in the Godhead. God is Spirit and there is only one Spirit.

Eph 4:4= There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 = One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Eph 4:6 = One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The title, "Holy Spirit" is used to designate another manifestation of God, another office as He works and moves in the hearts and lives of men and women.

Am i right, correct me if im mistaken, so i can learn


Thanks, Lacey




--- Quote from: Kat on November 06, 2007, 08:36:31 AM ---
Hi Lacy,

I would like to mention one thing about your post.


--- Quote ---we are to continue to ask the Holy Ghost for help when we are in need.

So we need to ask the holy spirit for help in everything we do because it guides us

we should pray and call on to the Holy Ghost to help us and he will
--- End quote ---

These statements make it sound like you are speaking of the Holy Spirit as a third being of the God head  ;)

I think you know this, but I just wanted to bring out that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ that is indwelling in the elect  :)

Rom 8:9  But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

mercy, peace and love
Kat



--- End quote ---

jER:
Many are called (out), but few indeed are chosen (selected), however, all will be Reconciled in one Spirit – HIS (God and Father of ALL).

So much for the "Us and them" mentality of (all) the churches…

A beloved brother in Christ…

- JER

Fabruk:
Thank you very much for all your comments.

Kat, your different translations helped where I needed. Thank you so much.

Just a thing though. Is it possible to know EXACTLY what is the proper translation for that verse?

God Bless
Fabio 

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