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Adam's Book
hillsbororiver:
One of the many profound insights gained from the Conference last weekend was when Ray pointed out Genesis 5:1;
Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Here is a quote from Ray;
"But what about the book of Genesis? Did God write that for Moses as well? There already apparently existed histories and genealogies of Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, and Jacob's children."
Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
He goes on to say;
"And notice carefully that the history and genealogical descent of Adam and Eve was taken from a pre-existant "book."
Hebrew
(Book) H5612
ספרה ספר
sêpher siphrâh
say'-fer, sif-raw'
From H5608; properly writing (the art or a document); by implication a book: - bill, book, evidence, X learn [-ed] (-ing), letter, register, scroll.
"Surely Noah preserved these records and books on the ark and passed them on to his kin and lineage.
Consider: Methuselah (born in 3254) knew his great great great great grandfather Adam for 243 years before Adam died in 3011. And Methuselah knew Noah (born 2885) for 600 years before he died in the year of the flood, 2285. After the flood Noah and his family settled in Mesopotamia (Iraq) where Abraham was born in 1995, and Noah did not die until 1935. Abraham knew his ancestral father Noah for 60 years. Jacob (Abraham's grandson born 1835) knew his grandfather Abraham for 15 years. And Moses of course is a distant grandson of Jacob.
These books and documents had to change hands only three times to arrive at Abraham on this side of the flood. Jacob and his family did not start out in Egypt as slaves but as guests of Joseph and the Pharoah. And somewhere in Israel for 400 years during their stay in Egypt, these books and records were preserved!
Some amazing stuff to be sure.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
jER:
"His Words shall never pass away; ours are but for a moment."
- JER
Chris R:
Hi Darren,
And the LORD gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them [such things as they required]. And they spoiled [plundered] the Egyptians [Exd 12:36]
I suppose if you where to look at the Exodus of the Isrealites, they pretty much took whatever they wanted, i would expect plenty of papyrus also.
And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.[Deu 31:9]
I'm sure the events where documented.
Chris R
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: YellowStone on November 07, 2007, 08:38:18 PM ---
Sorry Joe, this was probably not what you were expecting, but if one needs an example of how man's God given ability to learn and adapt, then the history of the written word is a good place to start. :)
--- End quote ---
Hi Darren,
Actually it is exactly what I have come to expect.
So you do not believe that Adam or antediluvian man had the ability to read, write and record words or symbols on scrolls or even books?
It is amazing how you continue to put words into my mouth with your most recent statement of dispute with me, you write;
"Very interesting; however it is far to easy to fall into the trap of seeing a magnificent leather bound book being passed down from father to son, from generation to generation."
If you read what Ray wrote with less motivation to disagree or be a contrarian you might have seen the following;
"These books and documents had to change hands only three times to arrive at Abraham on this side of the flood. Jacob and his family did not start out in Egypt as slaves but as guests of Joseph and the Pharaoh. And somewhere in Israel for 400 years during their stay in Egypt, these books and records were preserved!"
You find it a stretch to believe Adam had a language? I suspect the language Adam spoke in the garden was perhaps the most descriptive, poetic language the earth has seen in the history of man as this was the language Adam would have learned directly from the Lord, what did Adam use to name the animals in the Garden?
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.
Do you suppose it was one grunt for a cow, two grunts for a horse, three grunts for a bird..............etc.
What was the language that was confused at the Tower of Babel? Is it possible, or probable that it was the language that Noah's family preserved from one side of the flood to the other?
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have have imagined to do.
This is the first lesson in the history of the languages that I am aware of.
His Peace to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Hi Chris,
I missed your post as I was writing when you posted, very good point!
His Peace to you,
Joe
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