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Adam's Book
hillsbororiver:
Hi Darren,
Perhaps you should reread your original post and then contemplate your latest one and take your own advice when you feel compelled to respond to me or anyone else.
You could have very easily asked a question or made a comment without the sarcasm or that spirit of contention especially since you appear to be so sensitive to any sarcasm directed at you.
Darren this pattern of dissention and contention you have been displaying really puzzles me, are you seeking to be of like mind with the brethren here or are you motivated by something else? Are you now in disagreement with the articles and purpose of Bible Truths and this Forum?
I have been patient up to this point with your contrary, contentious views, but I must admit I no longer understand where you are coming from or what you are hoping to accomplish.
Pro 17:14 The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.
1Co 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
My purpose in starting this topic was the hope members would meditate on the miracle which is our bible and to begin to contemplate how this precious gift journeyed into our hands, I thought (and still do) that Ray brought up a very interesting point in regard to Genesis 5:1, and also that God has used man and men to carry forth His Will, Word and Purpose throughout all the generations.
Do you think it is more logical that God dictated the genealogical records to Moses as he furiously scribbled down the information or that Adam (and others) indeed kept a record of these things?
Perhaps in the future you can disagree in a more agreeable manner and even to seek to understand what is being said rather than jumping to conclusions at most every opportunity.
Peace,
Joe
Beloved:
It is obvious that man was endowed by God with language and that gave him a distinct advantage over all of the animals. His language allowed him develop concepts and this led to the passing of these concepts to the next generation.
How this was exactly written in not important... like today the media probably changed... carved rocks and carved wood ( I am sure that generations where carved in their staffs, ) animal skins were always plentiful. Trade and wealth allows for any materials needed to be obtained. The patriarch were not poor.
Most important was time... many were leaders of large families with servants so they had the luxury of study time. In addition there were less distractions on a daily basis. No phones news paper or internet. They had time to really think. They also had time to discuss and talk about these things in their lives. In those days family and tradition were important. Details were important.
Why did Judah give his signet and staff to Tamar as collateral. What legal documents did he need to seal? I have no doubt that there was writing being passed around and down through families. How could they prove they owned the Wells or the burial places when they brought the bones back?
None of this is doctrine and it is all speculation, never the less it is interesting to think about it.
Beloved
UncleBeau:
I tend to get a little parched when there's so much heat in the way of true knowledge. Here is some wisdom,
We have evidence from the overall awareness that when Moses mentioned an animal (Which were clean or unclean to eat, ceremonial or not), no one asked which animal that was (or at least it wasn't recorded that anyone asked. How did no one get confused on what a coney was?)
There must have been some kind of record of this to give general knowledge of these things to the people. The Generations of Adam according to Genesis we believe to have been recorded in some way. The first attempt at their language could have just been their names in some kind of order. The thing you should notice about Gen. chapter 5 all together is which names were in order first to last. Why end with Noah? Why not Noah's sons? What I'm getting at is, Look at the translations of their names in order. There's a reason why it was recorded (in Genesis, not the original recording) in that order and I believe it'll give you something really interesting to study.
joyful1:
It is my opinion that: believing man was incredibly advanced in the "beginning" does not in any way negate the established Bible truths studied on this site--
I think that spiritually, Adam was just like us....ready to sin at the drop of a hat....but intellectually...the gene pool was surely superior...
isn't it the "law of entropy" that says things are "winding down" ? becoming "less and less organized, decaying, etc.?" are our brains as good as Adam's? only if God has willed it....but it looks like we've lost a lot of abilities over time....we don't make pyramids as well as we used to... :)
perhaps we invented computers because we couldn't remember things as well as Adam could...I don't know...Hebrew oral tradition required a good memory of the participants...right? perhaps things were simply remembered or rehearsed orally for some generations...eventually, over time, as we realized that we were losing our memory...we began to write things down...
at any rate...what do you guys think about these verses?
Job 19:23
"Oh, that my words were written! Oh, that they were inscribed in a book!"
Job 19:24
"That they were engraved on a rock with an iron pen and lead, forever!"
Job knew about writing...and that's going back "a fur piece" as they used to say in the hills...
peace bros!
Joyce ;D
musicman:
--- Quote from: joyful1 on November 08, 2007, 02:01:28 PM ---It is my opinion that: believing man was incredibly advanced in the "beginning" does not in any way negate the established Bible truths studied on this site--
I think that spiritually, Adam was just like us....ready to sin at the drop of a hat....but intellectually...the gene pool was surely superior...
isn't it the "law of entropy" that says things are "winding down" ? becoming "less and less organized, decaying, etc.?" are our brains as good as Adam's? only if God has willed it....but it looks like we've lost a lot of abilities over time....we don't make pyramids as well as we used to... :)
perhaps we invented computers because we couldn't remember things as well as Adam could...I don't know...Hebrew oral tradition required a good memory of the participants...right? perhaps things were simply remembered or rehearsed orally for some generations...eventually, over time, as we realized that we were losing our memory...we began to write things down...
at any rate...what do you guys think about these verses?
Job 19:23
"Oh, that my words were written! Oh, that they were inscribed in a book!"
Job 19:24
"That they were engraved on a rock with an iron pen and lead, forever!"
Job knew about writing...and that's going back "a fur piece" as they used to say in the hills...
peace bros!
Joyce ;D
--- End quote ---
Winding down? I don't think so. First of all, we're growing taller by the generation (do to better nutrition probably). I think computers were invented to hold the massive amounts of accumulated information from all of man's knowledge. No person could ever hold that much information in their memory banks. The only reason our memories are weaker today than in earlier times is that we are not forced to use them as much. Also, it is very possible that entropy would not affect our DNA in the least because we are not a closed system. The Earth is almost a closed system but we as individuals (and our cells), are open to every outside affect on this planet. Therefore, there is no reason for entropy to be passed along by generation unless the atmosphere and our food sources are causing a deterioration or progressive mutilation of our cells. I realize that entropy is used to argue against evolution, but there are better ways of doing that.
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