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Jesus Wasn't The Only One Raised From The Dead
hillsbororiver:
But He was the only (so far) that was raised Immortal and Spirit.
We have 2 scriptural examples of being raised from the dead, those such as Lazarus who were raised just as they were, flesh, carnal and unconverted and we have Jesus (Firstfruit) who was raised with a new glorious spiritual Body.
We can be sure that those who were raised continued to have sin and trials in their lives and were in need of conversion by His Spirit, could this be a type/shadow of the future resurrection? As far as I can see these are the only types of resurrection mentioned in the bible, one raises a person still carnal and in the flesh and one where the Person is raised Immortal and Spirit.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 15, 2007, 06:59:41 PM ---But He was the only (so far) that was raised Immortal and Spirit.
We have 2 scriptural examples of being raised from the dead, those such as Lazarus who were raised just as they were, flesh, carnal and unconverted and we have Jesus (Firstfruit) who was raised with a new glorious spiritual Body.
We can be sure that those who were raised continued to have sin and trials in their lives and were in need of conversion by His Spirit, could this be a type/shadow of the future resurrection? As far as I can see these are the only types of resurrection mentioned in the bible, one raises a person still carnal and in the flesh and one where the Person is raised Immortal and Spirit.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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Great points joe, and definatly worth consideration. It's hard to tell, the Lord hasn't given us to much in this area to go off of, but i think there are some indications, though they be few, that those in Christ who overcome the world, will be raised as Christ was, and the rest of the world shall be raised yet in need of conversion and God's holy fire to change them into the very image of Christ.
We can only continue in the faith, pray, and one day we shall see, one day that is hopefuly not to far away for any of us!
In Christ,
Alex
pylady:
Hi Joe,
Recently there was a death in my family - the first since God so mercifully led me to BT and gave me the keys to unlocking His truths in the Scriptures. So I've been studying scriptures on death and the resurrection.
As always the more I study the more depth I see. And the more I see the more questions I have!
Rev21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes: and there shall be
no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any
more pain: for the former thing are passed away."
The "former things" can also be translated "first things", that is first in time or first in order. The time period is after the resurrection, and after the judgment. All mankind is reconciled to God - He is their God and they are His people. There is a new heaven and a new earth. The "former" or "first" things have now passed away, that is, sorrow, crying, pain, and death are no more.
Does this mean that in the time period between the resurrection of all and the reconciliation of ALL when Jesus turns the kingdom over to His Father that mankind will still suffer from sorrow, crying, pain and death?
Another thought. Those whom Jesus resurrected to the flesh, died again in the flesh. The Father is the only one who has resurrected someone with an immortal spiritual body - His Son.
There was a period of time between when Jesus was resurrected and when He returned to heaven. It was during this time that Jesus manifested Himself to His disciples in a human form, let them touch Him, spoke and ate with them. He has not been seen by any of His disciples in this form since then.
Could this mean that the elect will dwell on earth after their resurrection, dwelling with resurrected mankind to open up their minds to know God. When the work with mankind is finished will they too be taken up to heaven , as Jesus returned to His Father to receive His glory?
We know the elect will be as Jesus is - spirit. But will all mankind? Or will they dwell in heaven in their minds and hearts to know God, but exist in glorified, immortal human bodies serving our heavenly Father? I'm not sure I see in the scriptures the same fate for the elect and all mankind - because there will be a new heavens AND a new earth.
I could be totally off base with this. But that's how I learn asking questions. Maybe there is no answer right now. Seems there must be a reason these questions keep coming up. Perhaps our Father wants us thinking about these things before He gives us the answers!
Thank you for bring this timely for me subject up. Knowing I have lost my loved one for just a little while is a great comfort.
Your sister in Christ,
Cindy
hillsbororiver:
Thanks for your response Alex, you are right, the scriptures do not clearly spell out exactly how the Fall Harvest is accomplished in detail, I can only go with what I can see revealed to me at this time. In the future there may very well be new Light (to us) on this and then I am sure we will scratch our heads and say "Now why didn't I see this before?!" :o
Hi Cindy,
I am sorry to hear of your loss, it is painful to suddenly lose the company of a loved one, but we can take comfort in the fact that they themselves feel no pain, no separation, no loss. They are peacefully sleeping. http://bible-truths.com/death.htm
As you know there are two harvests and even if your loved one is in the Fall Harvest eventually everyone will be Sons and Daughters of the Father and there will be no one left out or of a second class.
The (special) reward of the elect isn't an elevated status forever but as a Spiritual servant of our Master Jesus Christ, being a part of bringing all the rest of humanity to the point where they are mature enough and ready to receive their inheritance.
Cindy, here is a truly humbling thought to meditate on, Christ might very well use you to bring your loved one to Him in the next age!
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
And then;
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
These two articles deal with this subject in a lot more depth;
http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html http://bible-truths.com/lake6.html
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 16, 2007, 06:34:04 AM ---Thanks for your response Alex, you are right, the scriptures do not clearly spell out exactly how the Fall Harvest is accomplished in detail, I can only go with what I can see revealed to me at this time. In the future there may very well be new Light (to us) on this and then I am sure we will scratch our heads and say "Now why didn't I see this before?!" :o
Hi Cindy,
I am sorry to hear of your loss, it is painful to suddenly lose the company of a loved one, but we can take comfort in the fact that they themselves feel no pain, no separation, no loss. They are peacefully sleeping. http://bible-truths.com/death.htm
As you know there are two harvests and even if your loved one is in the Fall Harvest eventually everyone will be Sons and Daughters of the Father and there will be no one left out or of a second class.
The (special) reward of the elect isn't an elevated status forever but as a Spiritual servant of our Master Jesus Christ, being a part of bringing all the rest of humanity to the point where they are mature enough and ready to receive their inheritance.
Cindy, here is a truly humbling thought to meditate on, Christ might very well use you to bring your loved one to Him in the next age!
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
And then;
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
These two articles deal with this subject in a lot more depth;
http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html http://bible-truths.com/lake6.html
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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Well thank YOU joe for shareing what you see and hear, i too have seen and heard the same, but i cannot say with certainty yet because as you stated right now we still see through that murky dim glass! yarr!! one day :P
God bless,
Alex
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