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Jesus Wasn't The Only One Raised From The Dead
Fabruk:
Hi Guys just a thought, for give me if I get it wrong and please correct me if so but we read in Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
We know this is referring to our Lord shouldn't be considered that if he was slain we would also be raised from the foundation of the world, making him the first of all?
God bless
Dan aka Fabio
pylady:
Hi Joe,
Thank you. It is indeed comforting to know that the dead are sleeping and are not even aware that they are dead! I have read Ray's very enlightening and comforting article "An Encouraging Thought About Death.". I printed a copy for my cousin who lost her mother. Have not had any feedback yet.
You said: "Cindy, here is a truly humbling thought to meditate on. Christ might very well use you to bring your loved one to Him in the next age."
These scriptures seem to go with that thought:
Matt 19:30 "But many that are first shall be last, and the last shall be first."
May indicate the order of the resurrection for many.
In the resurrection of Jairus' daughter :
Mark5:40 "...But putting them all out, He took along the child's father and mother and His own companions, and entered the room where the child was."
Jesus made sure the child's closest family was there to welcome her back.
Much to think about in these Scriptures. What wonderful times we have to look forward to! Vs 42 of Mark 5 says "immediately they were completely astonished."
Even though we can be certain there will be a resurrection of all I think we too will feel completely astonished! What a wonderful witness of the perfect love and mercy of our God will the resurrection be to all mankind!
Your sister in Christ,
Cindy ;D
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Joe
This is always a thouroughly thought provoking study inspiring subject!
It has been revealed to us through Ray that we are in the PROCESS of becoming the image of Christ. I believe this PROCESS extends also to the coming of the Kingdom of God. 1 Tim 6 : 16 Who alone has immortality in the sense of exemption from every kind of death and lives in unapproachable light, Whom no man has ever seen or can see, Unto Him be honour and aion power and dominion. (aion used in preference to unscriptural everlasting as taught at http://bible-truths.com/aeonion.htm Is everlasting Scriptural?)
Since Jesus has transcended the earth, His Presence is invisible. We know there is judgement now and later in the day of Judgement, just as there is resurrection to divine nature with Christ in the Spirit and resurrection to judgment by Christ in the second death LOF.
We know that The Kingdom of God is not carnal but is spiritual. It is not meat or drink and has no outward show. God is invisible. God is Spirit. The Kingdom of God too, I believe will also be invisible to carnal physical eyes. That is why one has to be born again because carnal physical eyes just don’t see it. Flesh and blood do not inherit the Kingdom of God.
We know and it is revealed also through the teachings we have received through Ray that the OT persons did not receive the promises of the NT so they will be raised to perfection via the LOF. This fits for me to the Scripture that says we shall see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the Kingdom of heaven. Now this is where I begin to speculate that this is why we will SEE them.
Matt 8:11 I tell you, many will come from east and west, and will sit at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
Note MANY from East and West and not FEW! Well we know what that means!
I believe as shown in the teachings brought to us via Ray, that many will go through the LOF. What is not taught or clarified yet is once perfected, will they will be appointed to rule on earth to administer mercy and grace to the other persons receiving more stripes, corrections and punishment as they experience the second death? We know there is a judgment of the angels that is reserved for them and will be ministered to them I believe, by the saints elect. Will the angels also be judged by the appointed Ambassadors to Christ on the Earth or will this judgment be reserved only for those raised in the Spirit of Christ? I think so yes. I believe the Ambasadors we will see will be ministering Grace, Mercy and Judgment to those on the earth still being purified of their flesh and carnality. The Ambasadors will live in the Heavenly relm but we will see them and many will see them for many are called and few are chosen.
Then as all returns to God first through Christ's Spirit, His Elect, His rulers Abraham Isaac Jacob and all the prophets, finally all who have practised evil will be perfected and healed of all wickedness. Then every knee will bow.
We know that the Scriptures are mostly silent on this one!...and may just be preparing us to think about these matters in preparation for revelation. I hope so!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Truth101:
--- Quote ---Does this mean that in the time period between the resurrection of all and the reconciliation of ALL when Jesus turns the kingdom over to His Father that mankind will still suffer from sorrow, crying, pain and death?
--- End quote ---
Hi im new to the forum but i have been a long time student of Ray's. Well not a long time but a few years anyway.
I just wanted to comment if I may on this question.
As far as I can see I would assume since through the kingdom age the non elect must go thorugh the judgement being perfected that there would be tears. I believe this proves that the crying, sorrow and pain will continue til all have been reconciled to God. It would appear that these discomforts of humanity will end once all has been reconciled to God.
If this has already been discussed I apologize. I havent had time to go through the whole thread.
God bless all, Dave
Kat:
Hi Truth 101,
I see this is your first post and I'm glad you joined in :)
I think you make a good point, considering this scripture.
Mat 13:49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
The Greek word for 'wailing' is klauthmos; from G2799; weeping: - weep.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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