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Robin:
I had a very frightening experience at Chuck Smith's church one night. I used to go to the charismatic Wednesday night meeting. I was raising my hands and singing in worship and something started breathing around my arms. I could feel the actual physical presence. It scared me so bad I interrupted the service for help.
It was that experience that later showed me the spirit in the Church was not God's spirit. I also questioned the good, emotional presence I felt at times when singing.
I found that worship became something different for me.
John 14:21
Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
John 15:10
If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.
1 John 3:24
Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.
1 John 5:2-4
2This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
1 Peter 1:22
Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart.
fe32k:
Thanks Arcturus,
I am not inclined at all to return either! This experience we had just makes me think sometimes. It wont make or break my faith, but I thought it was something worth bringing up to see if it is an experience I share with anyone on here or maybe come to a scriptural conclusion as to exactly what happened. It has never reoccured again, gladly. My major concern is for my wife to grasp these things I am learning as well and have a new sincere desire for the word of God, which I believe she has lost. All in God's time.
GBWY,
Roy
ciy:
Just like the bible where the "sum of the word is true", so it is with Ray's studies. Take the sum of Ray's studies (in this case especially "The Synagogue of Satan - There is One Near You"). Remember that God does not dwell in houses made by hand: he is a completely sovereign God down to the minutest detail: he does not punish anyone in hell for an eternity. All that said, when one is worshipping and calling out to a god that preaches "This is God's house", "Free Will" and "The 11 Second prayer that Saves You from Hell", they are not calling out to the God of the bible. They are probably calling out to and being answered by the God of this world.
Meditate on the Word. Meditate on the fact that God creates good and evil. Meditate on the complete sovereignty of God. Meditate on Christ in you in the hope of glory.
CIY
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello MG
Thank you for sharing that. It brought to mind this quote from Ray : But can you imagine God saying - ‘you know (calling anybody by name) you really were obedient to Me, you always did what was right, no matter how hard it was, you did what you knew was right and that is commendable. However you didn’t wave your hands, you didn’t fall over backwards and foam at the mouth, I’m so upset with you.’ (chuckle)
It’s just nonsense, that He would say, ‘yes you always obeyed Me, even in hard times, you did the right thing. You did right by Me, you did right by other people, you were obedient, but you didn’t wave your hands.’
Can you see what is important in worship? Forget about the waving hands. If you got to do it, well then do it. But you know the big thing is OBEDIENCE http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5312.0.html
Roy
I am so glad you have no inclination to return to Egypt Pianistic Harlot Babylon prostituted religious holier than thou spirits of deception! As for you wife, she is your wife and God does honour your marriage so trust that. She will not be discarded and maybe her slowness to come to the revelations you have, is your testing ground to trust in Christ and know Him better? Just something to think about. I know it is difficult for most couples who have spouses who do not share what we have here with the same empathy and enthusiasm can feel a little isolated and frustrated. Part of the cross we have to obediently without murmuring carry I think. :)
CIY
We all begin in blindness and then we are dragged out of it some into the LOF to burn off the idols and others in a daily judgment. What is of some comfort to me is that we know not who is who while we live. It could be that the very ones we feel frustrated by because of their lack of connection with the Truth, may in their HEARTS be carrying a bigger load of the cross and may be the very ones who enter the Kingdom before we do! It calls to mind the Parasee and the man who was beating his chest begging for mercy who Jesus said would be justified before the Parasee. It is a humbling thought to think those we see as less educated to the Word than us, might well be Gods chosen ones He is invisibly dragging closer to HIMSELF. Just a thought! I agree with you and share with you disgust for Babylon and Her Harlot ways and I share the desire to be separated from her plagues of deceit and deception.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
sonofone:
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CIY
We all begin in blindness and then we are dragged out of it some into the LOF to burn off the idols and others in a daily judgment. What is of some comfort to me is that we know not who is who while we live. It could be that the very ones we feel frustrated by because of their lack of connection with the Truth, may in their HEARTS be carrying a bigger load of the cross and may be the very ones who enter the Kingdom before we do! It calls to mind the Parasee and the man who was beating his chest begging for mercy who Jesus said would be justified before the Parasee. It is a humbling thought to think those we see as less educated to the Word than us, might well be Gods chosen ones He is invisibly dragging closer to HIMSELF. Just a thought! I agree with you and share with you disgust for Babylon and Her Harlot ways and I share the desire to be separated from her plagues of deceit and deception.
Thanks fore sharing this response.It to me is a truth that must be held onto as we continue this journey we are on.
Peace to you
Steve
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