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Gregor:
I can't remember where I read it, but I believe Ray said a bottomless pit would be a tube. However, the term is an oxymoron. Take drug use for example: "one is too many, and a thousand never enough" is a common slogan for the alcoholic not to take that first drink. When someone says, "I hit rock bottom" it implies there is no further that they can fall, but in reality, there is always something worse that could happen - hence "bottomless". And the "pit" refers to a trap used to catch wild beasts, ie man without knowledge/understanding, without the spirit of God. Thankfully our Savior's reach is without limit, able to pull us back out of that "bottomless pit" we've all found ourselves in. Technically, if one dug a pit to the center of the earth, that would qualify as a bottomless pit. A black hole in space could also qualify as a bottomless pit. Sometimes we just need to think outside the box.

Deborah-Leigh:


I like "submerged chaos" Thanks Chris R!

There are many who live in a "bottomless pit" ;D

Many live life behind a mask or hypocrisy that says I am okay and they are far from it. Social norms teach us smile and the world smiles with you and cry and you cry alone.....In other words, we are all indoctrinated to show a false front.....This is the worlds teaching from the bottomless pit!  :D

Come out of Her is the call to leave Babylon but also to get out of submerged, unrecognised chaos!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

rjsurfs:
Hi Chris...

Thanks for that... it is mentioned in the paper to John Hagee...


--- Quote ---First of all, "bottomless pit" is an absurd translation. There is no such thing, and could never be. It's like cold fire and square circles. It doesn't equate. It's an impossibility. Secondly, you take the ridiculous phrase "bottomless pit" and turn it into "The bottomless pit of eternity." Why do you do things like this? Do you just like the way these things roll off your tongue?

A proper translation of Rev. 9:2 is:...

--- End quote ---

The proper trainslation and more is within the paper at this link:
http://bible-truths.com/hagee1.htm

Bobby

Gregor:
Bobby,
Thanks for the link. Along with what you quoted, this is the only other part concerning the "bottomless pit" from the link you provided:

First of all, "bottomless pit" is an absurd translation. There is no such thing, and could never be. It's like cold fire and square circles. It doesn't equate. It's an impossibility. Secondly, you take the ridiculous phrase "bottomless pit" and turn it into "The bottomless pit of eternity." Why do you do things like this? Do you just like the way these things roll off your tongue?

A proper translation of Rev. 9:2 is: "And to him was given the key of the well of the submerged chaos." There is nothing bottomless about it. This place is not called "hell." There are no people there. There are locusts and demons here.

I think "well of the submerged chaos" could mean the same things as I've posted earlier. In any case, if you or anyone else knows of anywhere else that Ray teaches on the meaning of "well of the submerged chaos" I'd be interested to know. Thanks.
G.

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Gregor

.....There are locusts and demons in your quote from Ray. Sounds like Babylon! We know who's throne is found there. Satan's! So it makes sense to me to see Mystery Babylon as this so called "bottomless pit" or better translated submerged chaos! ;D  I believe that the entire LOF series is a discernment showing, refuting and exposing the heresies and false teachings of Harlot Babylon.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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