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Kat:

Hi Sue Ann,

Here is the email I think you were referring to  :)

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4229.msg32197.html#msg32197 ----

Ahhh but you are wrong Sam. We are NOT "mindless puppets" as you suggest, but rather puppets WITH minds.  What a GENIUS God is--puppets.......w-i-t-h   M-I-N-D-S!   Marvelous!  I love it.

God be with you,
Ray
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Here is another email.  ActuallyI guess you could say that you already are kind of a puppet Alex.

http://bible-truths.com/email5.htm#puppets -------------

By the way, we are considerably more complex than a mere puppet.  But it is true that God controls us every bit as much as a puppeteer controls a puppet. And God is not ashamed to admit that this is the case. God says that a man CANNOT DIRECT HIS OWN STEPS, that the response of the tongue IS FROM THE ETERNAL, that ALL IS OF GOD, that God is operating ALL according to the counsel of His own will, that HE Himself is the CREATOR OF EVIL, it was God who planted the forbidden fruit tree in the garden than contained not only good, but a knowledge of EVIL as well, it is GOD who sets up the rulers of all governments, one can only come to Christ when God decides to "draw [Greek, drag] him to Christ," and a thousand and one other things. So why do we have trouble believing all these Scriptures?
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mercy, peace and love
Kat

Sue Creamer:
Kat,

That's it....!!!  Ray sure doesn't mince words and I do so love it!!!!  Feels just like a good wine that soothes the stomach and the soul.

Thank you!!

peace,
Sue Ann

 

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Sue Ann

All I could find was some email responses by Ray who uses the term Robots, not Puppets.

Here are the links.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2943.0.html

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4702.0.html

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Sorin:
Alex,

I can relate, because I too struggle with sin, and making the wrong choices, and with even my faith. I can't seem to make up my mind,
there's this constant battle going on inside my mind, and I can't seem to choose a side.

As for being a 'puppet', aren't we already? Albeit puppets with minds, but still puppets with the causation as the strings, and our choices
are the effects of the strings being pulled.

It is a strange thing indeed to think that we don't have free-will, and that all our choices are caused, but that's just the way it is.
Even the food we like, or dislike is determined by our taste buds, and there's nothing we can do about it. I will always choose a nice juicy burger over shrimp because I don't like shrimp, and I find it disgusting. So was that a 'free choice' uncaused by anything? I don't think so... lol

It was caused by the fact that I like burgers, but hate shrimp and I can not 'free-will' myself into liking shrimp.

Take care,

Sorin

lilitalienboi16:
Hello kat and sorin. Thank you both for your posts.

I guess we are somewhat puppets... but sometimes i don't want to a puppet with a mind, i'd rather be a puppet without a mind because makeing the right choices is way to hard and apperently right now God doesn't want me to make the right choices.

Sorin, i know what you mean. I'm in school right now at college, where everything is about evolution. I get things thrown in my face left and right about evolution. Evolution this - that, we are evolving, our knowledge evolves, it's everywhere!!!! I am not armed with any knowledge to counter bat these arguments and it is frustrating. It doesn't help my faith, but God is greater and i have not wavered. Though i wish i could know how to answer all these questions and statements the evolutionist makes. It's tough stuff.

I'm strong because God is strong and so i am okay. These things will not cause me to falter unless it be the Lord's plan. Though i doubt that He has planned me to fall away because of evolution.

Well i pray the Lord see you through your trials sorin. It's hard sometimes to stay focused on Him but through Him nothing is impossible. This i know.

God bless,

Alex

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