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Kevin:
Alright, since we are talking about beebee guns. You have to know what a Benjamin pellet gun is. I remember when I was a kid my older brother would shoot me when I would run across the yard Man that was Mean of him :twisted:
Nightmare I thought I seen reports of smoke rising in uncharted areas of the north pole. Are you the culprit?
I hope that wolf is full now. If he isnt maybe we can feed him the tooth fairy.

gmik:
Boy this is a hard one for me.  I don't want to go back into legalism.   But I don't want to follow pagan customs either.  Can we just enjoy the lights and carols and snow and showing love to one another with gift giving.  I don't think that I am worshiping any old heathen diety.  My kids were NEVER taught anything about santa. Now with a granddaughter it will be hard to not celebrate-especially as my grown children are solidly grounded in a non denominational church.  I don't want this to be an idol of the heart but so far no red flags have gone up in my spirit to stop this. l Maybe the best way is to move to Florida and bask on the beach Christmas Day.  God will show me of this I have no doubt.

gmik:
Hey Falcon/Rodger if you are out there reading in cyberland, I know you have a funny quip or joke or something really deep to share on these bee bee guns.  Where are you? I miss your posts!

zander:
Christmas is a Pagan tradition that was celebrated years before the birth of Christ.  In around the year 350AD, the then Pope tied it in with Christ's birth, as so many pepole liked celebrating pagan Christmas, so the Pope decided that it would be a good idea to make all these people also beleive that it was celebrating Christ's birth.  Do a Google search on "Christmas Pagan"

ANother pagan tradition formed by the firm.

zander:
Becky,

Its not so much whether to cel;ebrate or not celebrate Christmas.  The truth is, there is nothing to actually celebrate.  Sure, i love (as well as most people) i love having the time off, because i see my friends, i go out and see family.  But only because i have the time off, and its welcomed.  But i wouldnt say i celebrate something that comes from Nordic tradition pre Christs birth.

Most pagan ideas came from Egypt.  The pagan ideas then filtered into the Church, here is what God says about celebrating such ideas.

"Thus says the Lord, LEARN NOT THE WAY OF THE HEATHEN…" (Jer. 10:2)

Deut. 12:30—"Take heed to yourself that you BE NOT SNARED BY FOLLOWING THEM, after that they be destroyed from before you, and that you enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? EVEN SO WILL WE DO LIKEWISE."

Lev. 20:23—"And YOU SHALL NOT WALK IN THE MANNERS OF THE NATION, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I ABHORRED them."

Lev. 18:3—"After the doings of the land of EGYPT, wherein you dwelled, SHALL YOU NOT DO: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, where I bring you, SHALL YOU NOT DO: neither shall you walk in their ordinances."

Sure Jesus did do some physical things in his ministry, but all these physical things that Christ did had a spiritual meaning and had to be physical to make his disciples understand.  For example, when he broke the bread and gave to his disciples, telling them they were eating his body, Jesus knew he had to do the physical act (of breaking and giving bread) to make the disciples understand the spiritual meaning behind it.  Its obvious that we dont inherit Christs body by taking physical holy communion.  All physical rituals are defunct in our spiritual growth.  It is from the inward out that we are judged on.  We "eat" Christs body Spiritually, not physically

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