I am a little puzzled about your question/comment Rodger. I don't understand asking someone to defend a post they made a year ago. Especially considering that he stated in his newest response that he was completely new to BT when he posted it.
But you did say, "I do not see any reference to Ray stating Martin taught him anything........does anyone ?"
So I will attempt to use my own womanly logic here.
Ray said, "I gave Dr. Martin credit for some of my outline on "The Canonization of the Scriptures" which I taught at our last Conference..."
and "The last time we studied together was back in 1982, ... and we spent a long weekend together" and "So he learned some things before I did..."
It seems a very logical assumption/jump from those statements, to me, that indeed, he may have actually learned something from Dr. Martin. After all, he did give him credit for some of his teachings. I have learned from many people with whom I don't completely agree with. I pray that the day never comes that in order to learn, I must be in 100% agreement with the one God sends to teach me. I don't know if I even agree with myself THAT much.
I quote Ray all the time because I have learned from him. It doesn't mean that my knowledge doesn't come from God.
Back to the original subject, I found and read the entire article Samson. I have enjoyed reading historical accounts of the deceit of the church long before I found BT. It is the subject that the Lord first used to begin to open my mind to the truths here. Thanks for bringing to the top George.
Blessings, Lin