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A Terrible, Strange Place
Sorin:
I must be weird, 'cause my head's not hurting, and I always think about things like this.
Now where's that silver wrench? ;)
Kat:
Here you go Joe
--- Quote ---We will not truly have a complete understanding of all this until the "change" at resurrection but even the bits and pieces of wisdom that are being revealed to us expands the mind and gives us glimpses of God and His plan and purpose that relatively very few have had the good fortune to see.
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I believe for those few that He raises at the first resurrection, He will have revealed, to some degree (because I know people called down through the ages didn't know a lot of this stuff being revealed now), these things. I just don't see Him rasing up someone that does not have a inkling about how God does things.
So I think as Ray is working to bring forward all this scientific stuff, is necessary undertanding for those being prepared.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
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I sure wish I had a head exploding smiley to put here,
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--- Quote from: Kat on January 28, 2008, 08:27:29 AM ---
Here you go Joe
Thank you Sister!
--- Quote from: Sorin on January 28, 2008, 08:20:49 AM ---I must be weird, 'cause my head's not hurting, and I always think about things like this.
Now where's that silver wrench? ;)
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LOL
I suspect you have not attempted to leave God out of the creation process Sorin, through faith in Him and His Word His people can see things that escape unbelievers and naysayers.
That silver hammer was floating around here somewhere........ ???
Peace,
Joe
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hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Matthew on January 27, 2008, 07:00:31 PM ---Joe,
Thank you so much! My wife just talked to me last night about "working out our salvation" and its meaning for us etc..
Now I have somewhere to start :)
Hi Matt,
It is awesome when we see our loved ones begin to come to an understanding of His Word rather than the doctrines of the churches, I have had a similar experience with my own wife who was in the choir and committees and activities in a Baptist church when I "stumbled" onto Bible Truths.
A few weeks before my stumble I had begun to go to church with her out of a loyalty to her rather than any belief in their system or love for their hell and brimstone god. I would sit, stand and kneel and the appropriate times as my mind was usually a million miles away. When they droned on and on about upcoming events, the need for more $$$, the skits and plays and whatever else they presented as entertainment I would just read my bible.
It might have been my 3rd or 4th consecutive visit to the church when the pastor announced he was going to give a 3 part sermon on "The Two Compartments Of Hell" he even stated there was little to no bible references in regard to this doctrine but "he believed it to be true." As soon as he said that I blurted out loud "why would you teach something without scripture?!! My wife slapped my arm with the back of her hand and threw me some visual daggers that I can still vividly remember. I did (barely) keep my mouth shut the rest of the way with the exception of a few audible groans but once I got outside I could contain myself no longer, I told her flat out there was no way I was going to listen to this stuff any more.
She was more than a little upset with me and said "it took me over 10 years to get you to go to church with me and in only a few weeks that stupid (Bible Truths) website you believe so much has you right back out!" :D
To make a long story short(er) my wife eventually came to the conclusion that the church she belonged to was more concerned with $$$ than anything else and that the doctrines were making less and less sense to her, she began to read the bible on her own starting at Genesis 1:1.
We would speak about certain things and I did not try to force feed any meat that might choke her. The first thing she began to see was the fallacy of free will, how we are clay in the Potter's Hand, from there the hell myth and other idols of babylon began to fall.
Every day, God is pulling her in closer and closer to the truth. The other day, I showed her proof of many spurious passages that are not in the original manuscripts of the NT (sinaitic writings, etc), and she was very upset (not with me this time though ;D.) She even "jokingly" said that she may need to find a different church ;)
I am really happy to read about your wife's progress in searching the scriptures for herself, it is a very good starting point, once we learn to love His Word the beginning of understanding follows! Thank you for posting this Matt, this kind of testimony always brightens my day.
Also, space is just nothing, isn't it? It hurts my head to think about it for any more that 20 seconds, just like Ray said in his audio about eternity, hmmmm.
Matt
His Peace to you Brother,
Joe
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phazel:
--- Quote from: Matthew on January 27, 2008, 07:00:31 PM ---
Also, space is just nothing, isn't it? It hurts my head to think about it for any more that 20 seconds, just like Ray said in his audio about eternity, hmmmm.
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Actually science has found that there is no area of "space" known in the entire universe that contains nothing. There is some form of energy present within all places known to exist.
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