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Turning the other cheek
Kat:
If we are having our eyes opened to the Truth, then we have a much greater understanding of why things happen in this world. We know that God causes all things and any situation that you find yourself in. So since we know that He is creating situations in our lives to teach us from, can't these situations be seen for what they are.... learning experiences for His chosen. If we truely understand that Christ is in control of every situation, can't we see how we are being taught how to show love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
v. 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
v. 24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
v. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Just felt like sharing my opinion on this :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
Hi Everyone,
I think Beloved touched on something in her response (as did you all) bringing up the apparent difference in the OT (Old Covenant) admonishment of an "eye for an eye" for carnal justice and the NT (New Covenant) "do not resist" for spiritual judgment.
The decree of an eye for an eye was there to make sure the earthly punishment fit the crime, do not take out a person's eye because he chipped your tooth. Do not amputate a a persons arm because he cut your finger.
It was a decree of proper and fair judgment and punishment, the New Covenant expanded on that.
Think of this as you consider the denominations doctrine of punishment of an eternal hell for a temporal, finite sinful life and what an evil message it is, no wonder unbelievers believe that they could not worship a god they themselves feel superior to.
Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
In regard to what Jesus was saying about not resisting evil aren't these folks (committing evil acts) judging themselves when they do you wrong? Whether it is rumor mongering, theft, beatings or any other evil thing we can do to one another we should pray like Christ prayed to our Father, not to give us the authority and power to seek vengeance but for the strength of spirit to discern the situation and forgive our tormentors.
1Ki 3:9 Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?
1Ki 3:10 And the speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing.
1Ki 3:11 And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;
1Ki 3:12 Behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
Of course we are going to protect our loved ones or those who are weak but in doing so we must never exact revenge, only restraint, restrain the one committing the aggression (as He leads us) and the restraint of ourselves from succumbing to the temptation to exact revenge.
Please let us not get into hypothetical situations where it descends into Rambo or Batman scenarios, these are not edifying and are not of Christ, the following is of Christ.
Matthew 6:34 (King James Version)
Matthew 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Matthew 6:34 (New International Version)
Matt 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Matthew 6:34 (Amplified Bible)
Matthew 6:34 So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble.
We need to strive for faith in Christ not faith in ourselves, that is what this journey is all about.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
Deborah-Leigh:
For me, turning the other cheek is this quote : 1 Peter 2 : 23 When He was reviled and insulted, He did not revile or offer insult in return: when He was abused and suffered, He made no threats of vengeance; but HE TRUSTED HIMSELF AND EVERYTHING TO HIM WHO JUDGES FAIRLY.
Kat
I found this scripture that I believe ties in with your observation.
Col 1 : 16 For it was in Him that ALL THINGS WERE CREATED (even our circumstances that are either good or evil, every opportunity and every (apparently to us in our carnal mis-understanding,) lost opportunity, and every hair on our heads! :D) and exist through Him and in and for Him.
Peace to you all
Arcturus :)
musicman:
I seriously wanted to turn another's cheek today.
Don't think that's what Christ meant though.
Jackie Lee:
--- Quote from: Kat on February 05, 2008, 09:21:49 AM ---
If we are having our eyes opened to the Truth, then we have a much greater understanding of why things happen in this world. We know that God causes all things and any situation that you find yourself in. So since we know that He is creating situations in our lives to teach us from, can't these situations be seen for what they are.... learning experiences for His chosen. If we truely understand that Christ is in control of every situation, can't we see how we are being taught how to show love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
v. 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
v. 24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
v. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Just felt like sharing my opinion on this :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Thank you, this what I believe also, It is not always easy.....But Yes!
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