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dogcombat:
Another example: note Ray's response about reading with "an open mind".

Your Teachings

You are ridiculous... There is nothing sound about it. You use scripture completely out of context and make it say what you want. Satan can use scripture. I have heard a sermon on Ezekiel 37 and you're wrong. And the whole attitude of your teachings are so negative and prideful. Nothing attracts me to the Lord in your teachings... I've wasted my time...


Dear Adam:  How stupid do you think I am?  When I see a book, an article, a TV show, a web site, that is "ridiculous, nothing sound, wrong, negative, prideful, nothing appealing, a waste of time," the last thing on  this God's earth that I would do is take the time to write them!  Give me a break.  You read some things that angered you, and not because they were "ridiculous or prideful or negative," but because you could NOT contradict what I said with the Scriptures. But you will continue to believe these "damnable heresies" (II Pet. 2:1) before you would ever admit that you have been sucked into this worldwide system of Babylon the Great, and you have no desire to "come OUT of her My people" (Rev. 18:4).  Just letting you know that you don't fool me and I can see through you like a window pane.  Do yourself a favor, and read the material on our site with an open mind and an open Bible, and see who it is that is guilty of "twisting" the Scriptures.

God be with you,

Ray


An open mind can be the learning kind.

Ches

Samson:
Hello Ches,

                I'm with you about these detractors not reading Rays' entire information on any particular subject they Question or worse yet, making an attach against his teachings and labeling him a Heretic or something like that. In other recent posts at this forum discussing Rays E-mails, I've emphatically made that same observation, perhaps they start to read and upon reading something totally foreign to what they've been taught, it immediately triggers an emotional reaction and all objectivity is lost. You appear to be a rational and objective type person tending to fully examine a viewpoint before jumping to conclusions, I tend to be the same. Arcturus rightfully quoted John. 9:41, that can definetely apply here, I thought of Proverbs. 18:13 " When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears it, that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation. " In this case its' reading about a matter. I also like: Proverbs.12:18;10:19;14:6. One last thought, I'm amazed how many have such a great concern over Tithing, until recently, I didn't know people believed in Tithing for Christians, I never did, only heard about a few denominations that advocated such a view. Especially in this country, where Morals are at an all time Low, many of these people that E-mail Ray don't seem to bring that issue up too often, aside from some E-mails regarding Homosexuality, like the one mentioned today. When on the attach, often the self-righteous will attach ones' Moral Character, they are unable to do that to Ray, in all likelihood they have tried and were unsuccessfull, so what people usually do in these cases, is to resort to Plan B, attach the teachings. While the Morals of people are at an all time Low, people worry about Tithing. I know whats important to different people varies from person to person, the whole thing just seems like " straining the Gnat and Gulping down the Camel".

                                       Just my Thoughts and nothing more, Samson.

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Samson

The Gnat and the Camel got me thinking.. :)
This is all in the Plan of God. That is amazing! EVERYTHING and EVERYONE is in the Plan of God. NO ONE is excluded! 8) Those who can read and those who think they can read. Those who do know and those who think they know. Those who do perceive and those who are blind. God is so good to all of us!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

dogcombat:
The recent email to Ray called "Doctrine", is another example of some people who won't bother to R-E-A-D.  I'm not making light of this person's blindness.  But, I want to show how far God has brought us from that miserable line of thought.   Like this person IS, a lot of us WERE.  I know I still dispise many of the scriptures.  However, I ask God to grant His mercy on people like this person. 

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11047.0.html

Ches

Deborah-Leigh:

Hello Dogcombat,

Ray gave the person a lot to think about. Ray pulled out all the stops. It had to have taken enormous love and effort for Ray to point out every witness he worte down for the person to consider. If not this then that. If not that then this and on and on. Ray gives and gives. I can feel Ray's love for the poor blind lost soul that cried out to him. Ray certainly answered in a way that describes, pressed down, shaken together and pouring over with hope for this person that God would through the foolishness of preaching, grant him to believe and repent and turn to sound mindedness to believe in God.

God will have Mercy, of that I am certain.

Arc

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