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dewey:
As I read all the posts that have been posted lately, most of them seem to have been directed toward the churches around the world .The sad part is that most people think that these billions of people are not as good or holy as thy simply because they believe in something a little bit different, and so that gives you the right to call them the people of Babylon. Almost to compare them to dirt , if you think that I am wrong go back and read some of your earlier posts.
How soon we forget, just what it was that Jesus said when he spoke to his followers . [MT7:3 thru 5] And just what was it that Jesus said about judging? He came to judge no one, but if he was to judge it would be just. With that I say stop judging the people of the world, lest ye be judged .
Just because some of us have the knowledge to speak above the understanding of most people does not mean that we should post with the words that only a scholar would use. May I suggest that you people that do ask yourself are there people out there that won't understand what I am saying ? It is like speaking in tongues, if no one understands then why do it ?
In the name of Jesus Christ, Paula and I try to love all people
Dewey .
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: dewey on February 23, 2008, 05:50:28 PM ---As I read all the posts that have been posted lately, most of them seem to have been directed toward the churches around the world .The sad part is that most people think that these billions of people are not as good or holy as thy simply because they believe in something a little bit different, and so that gives you the right to call them the people of Babylon. Almost to compare them to dirt , if you think that I am wrong go back and read some of your earlier posts.
How soon we forget, just what it was that Jesus said when he spoke to his followers . [MT7:3 thru 5] And just what was it that Jesus said about judging? He came to judge no one, but if he was to judge it would be just. With that I say stop judging the people of the world, lest ye be judged .
Just because some of us have the knowledge to speak above the understanding of most people does not mean that we should post with the words that only a scholar would use. May I suggest that you people that do ask yourself are there people out there that won't understand what I am saying ? It is like speaking in tongues, if no one understands then why do it ?
In the name of Jesus Christ, Paula and I try to love all people
Dewey .
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Theirs a difference between judgeing someone and exposeing those who countradict and preaching with sound doctrine.
After all, was it not God who said;
"Open rebuke is better than secret love." (Proverbs 27:5)
Or as the New century version puts it;
"It is better to correct someone openly than to have love and not show it."
Will you openly rebuke someone who is wrong so that they may learn by God's grace and mercy which is showing them open love or will you continualy turn a blind eye to their errors only hurting them through secret love?
This is what i come to understand through the countless time's i've been accused of judgeing others because i won't stand for the wicked doctrine of demons they preach.
"You are judgeing me" they scream. No, i'm not judgeing you, God's Word is.
With love in Christ,
Alex
Martinez:
--- Quote from: dewey on February 23, 2008, 05:50:28 PM ---As I read all the posts that have been posted lately, most of them seem to have been directed toward the churches around the world .The sad part is that most people think that these billions of people are not as good or holy as thy simply because they believe in something a little bit different, and so that gives you the right to call them the people of Babylon. Almost to compare them to dirt , if you think that I am wrong go back and read some of your earlier posts.
How soon we forget, just what it was that Jesus said when he spoke to his followers . [MT7:3 thru 5] And just what was it that Jesus said about judging? He came to judge no one, but if he was to judge it would be just. With that I say stop judging the people of the world, lest ye be judged .
Just because some of us have the knowledge to speak above the understanding of most people does not mean that we should post with the words that only a scholar would use. May I suggest that you people that do ask yourself are there people out there that won't understand what I am saying ? It is like speaking in tongues, if no one understands then why do it ?
In the name of Jesus Christ, Paula and I try to love all people
Dewey .
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Hey there Dewey.
All I have to say about this particular subject is this, go and read Mathew, Mark, Luke and John and see what Jesus had to say to those who believed differently than He did.
To those who were humble and seeking the truth He was gracious and loving, but to those who would pervert the truth and had no intrest in seeking the truth He was fiery and indignant and rightfully so.
If it was merely a matter believing something different that would be fine, but they believe differently because they have no intrest in the truth, they have no interest in everyone being brought into God's family, they would be perfectly happy with billions screaming their guts out in indescribable pain just so they can have there pie in the sky, it's the way of the flesh!
Go and have a look at some of the countries where millions go hungry because their government is corrupt, is this not the exact same scenario being played as we speak?
Kat:
Hi Dewey,
--- Quote from: dewey on February 23, 2008, 05:50:28 PM ---As I read all the posts that have been posted lately, most of them seem to have been directed toward the churches around the world .The sad part is that most people think that these billions of people are not as good or holy as thy simply because they believe in something a little bit different, and so that gives you the right to call them the people of Babylon. Almost to compare them to dirt , if you think that I am wrong go back and read some of your earlier posts.
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I read all the posts too and I am not aware of anybody speaking of someone as to almost 'compare them to dirt' ???
We do express our feelings that we should not remain part of a system that teaches heresy and blasphemes by teaching God will torture most of humanity in real fire for eternity.
We get the term 'Babylon' from Revelation (Rev. 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), which I believe is a proper term for the apostate church. But we express this towards the system and not the individuals.
Some of us have mentioned that we still have loved ones in the church, and you are so mistaken if you think we feel these people are not as good as we are. I have not seen that in any of the posts and I wonder why you make these kind of accusations.
We have this fellowship so that we can share with each other and help one another with our life experiences, which includes coming out of the church. But we do not want there to be criticism of individials and I don't think there has been.
Now if you have a specific complaint where this was done, then certainly let a mod. know and it will be checked into.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
musicman:
I think what Dewey is trying to say is that we are basically taking part in gossip at the expense of those still in Babylon. And yes Dewey, they are in Babylon. They are blind and most are so afraid of not having their perfect happiness for eternity that they are willing to accept a god of failure and torture.
Is it right that we poke fun at their ridiculous doctrines when we aren't actually speaking to these lost in Babylon? Maybe not. But we are also reminding ourselves where most of us used to be.
I for one, feel contempt for those who would be OK with much of my family and humanity suffering for all eternity with no hope of salvation. These hell believers should be losing their minds for such a belief. Why aren't they screaming for the world to repent? Why are they able to carry on with their lives believing that they will be eternally happy while billions will be screaming in fire or at the very least, separated from our God?
Sometimes laughter is the best medicine when thinking of such horrible perspectives. By the way, I don't believe that dirt will be saved in the end, therefore, these lost Babylonians are definitely not dirt.
I know we are to love all people. May God give me this ability in His time.
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